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How do Reddit and Twitter pass the App Store review process? I'm pretty sure you can trivially find porn by searching for it.

chanc3e 5y ago
Have designed and built apps for several high profile brands. When you are big enough: apple occasionally send an engineer to share upcoming features, or nudge you in a direction they are keen to promote (2018 it was all AR) and at this point someone in C-Suite has a human contact to smooth out App Store BS. So OP is correct in that it’s about size/apple seeing you as an asset and not a problem - they want those shiny family friendly releases for advertising material. I used to think the App Store governance was a good idea. I no longer do.
phreack 5y ago
When you're big enough, there's a chance that the boss's boss at Apple uses your app and will come talk to you and save you from The Process. Also, if everyone uses your app, when it breaks then people will not necessarily complain to you, but to Apple instead since people can't tell the difference between the phone and the app, so to avoid the idea that your phone breaks, Apple will let you update your app instantly.
- kmeisthax 5y ago
  AKA "The reason why Roblox is allowed on the App Store and iDOS 2 isn't".
malwarebytess 5y ago
Can you? Reddit makes you change a setting, save it, reload the page, uncheck a couple more settings, save, before you can see adult content these days. per-account quick test logged out: search "butts" -> no nsfw results on first page search "tits" -> a couple unlabeled nsfw posts (against reddit rules.)
- daoismyname 5y ago
  open a browser, navigate to https://www.reddit.com/r/tits/ https://www.reddit.com/r/tits/, click yes, done!
  - giantrobot 5y ago
    Holy shit. Since when is there naked women on the Internet?
  - sebastien_b 5y ago
    When I go to that link (on iOS), my only option is to “view in app”, which is a shitty option to offer. PWAs would free them from having to put up with Apple’s restrictions crap.
    - heavyset_go 5y ago
      > PWAs would free them from having to put up with Apple’s restrictions crap. Apple knows this, hence why they've not implemented the features needed by PWAs, and why they ban all browser rendering and JavaScript engines besides iOS Safari's.
- _lqwe 5y ago
  It is enough to search for a pornstar's name to find porn in the Reddit app. This works even if you don't have an account and NSFW content is disabled. While it's not as "simple" as a porn keyword, it is almost certain people do this. Reddit relies on people tagging their content as NSFW, but of course this is not something they can enforce 100%. And once you find an account posting NSFW, you can access all their NSFW posts even if they were made on subreddits that are hidden to you if you search for them explicitly in the search bar. By the way, when I typed the actress' first name, I was already being suggested a subreddit dedicated to sharing nude pictures of another woman with the same name. Again, I used the app as it comes straight out of the App Store without logging in or changing anything.
JimDabell 5y ago
They follow this rule: > If your app includes user-generated content from a web-based service, it may display incidental mature “NSFW” content, provided that the content is hidden by default and only displayed when the user turns it on via your website. — https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#user-generated-content https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#use...
- bsql 5y ago
  So why don’t tumblr and other apps plagued by this no NSFW rule follow this?

chanc3e 5y ago

Have designed and built apps for several high profile brands. When you are big enough: apple occasionally send an engineer to share upcoming features, or nudge you in a direction they are keen to promote (2018 it was all AR) and at this point someone in C-Suite has a human contact to smooth out App Store BS. So OP is correct in that it’s about size/apple seeing you as an asset and not a problem - they want those shiny family friendly releases for advertising material. I used to think the App Store governance was a good idea. I no longer do.

phreack 5y ago

When you're big enough, there's a chance that the boss's boss at Apple uses your app and will come talk to you and save you from The Process. Also, if everyone uses your app, when it breaks then people will not necessarily complain to you, but to Apple instead since people can't tell the difference between the phone and the app, so to avoid the idea that your phone breaks, Apple will let you update your app instantly.

kmeisthax 5y ago
AKA "The reason why Roblox is allowed on the App Store and iDOS 2 isn't".

malwarebytess 5y ago

Can you? Reddit makes you change a setting, save it, reload the page, uncheck a couple more settings, save, before you can see adult content these days. per-account quick test logged out: search "butts" -> no nsfw results on first page search "tits" -> a couple unlabeled nsfw posts (against reddit rules.)

daoismyname 5y ago
open a browser, navigate to https://www.reddit.com/r/tits/ https://www.reddit.com/r/tits/, click yes, done!
- giantrobot 5y ago
  Holy shit. Since when is there naked women on the Internet?
- sebastien_b 5y ago
  When I go to that link (on iOS), my only option is to “view in app”, which is a shitty option to offer. PWAs would free them from having to put up with Apple’s restrictions crap.
  - heavyset_go 5y ago
    > PWAs would free them from having to put up with Apple’s restrictions crap. Apple knows this, hence why they've not implemented the features needed by PWAs, and why they ban all browser rendering and JavaScript engines besides iOS Safari's.
_lqwe 5y ago
It is enough to search for a pornstar's name to find porn in the Reddit app. This works even if you don't have an account and NSFW content is disabled. While it's not as "simple" as a porn keyword, it is almost certain people do this. Reddit relies on people tagging their content as NSFW, but of course this is not something they can enforce 100%. And once you find an account posting NSFW, you can access all their NSFW posts even if they were made on subreddits that are hidden to you if you search for them explicitly in the search bar. By the way, when I typed the actress' first name, I was already being suggested a subreddit dedicated to sharing nude pictures of another woman with the same name. Again, I used the app as it comes straight out of the App Store without logging in or changing anything.

JimDabell 5y ago

They follow this rule: > If your app includes user-generated content from a web-based service, it may display incidental mature “NSFW” content, provided that the content is hidden by default and only displayed when the user turns it on via your website. — https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#user-generated-content https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#use...

bsql 5y ago
So why don’t tumblr and other apps plagued by this no NSFW rule follow this?