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I don't think that's the right question to ask. Obviously my chances of surviving COVID would be higher with the vaccine than without. The real question is, whi

I don't think that's the right question to ask. Obviously my chances of surviving COVID would be higher with the vaccine than without. The real question is, which has an overall higher risk for someone of my age, sex, and health status, a COVID infection or the vaccine? I honestly don't know the answer to that question.

justin66 5y ago
- hnuser847 5y ago
  A doctor can't provide me with data that doesn't exist. I actually did ask a friend who's an ER doc about whether or not I should get one of the mRNA boosters, given that I have a history of pericarditis. He said that, based on the available studies, the risk of getting pericarditis/myocarditis from COVID is far greater than the risk of getting it from the vaccine, but he also conceded that he didn't know of any studies that specifically examined the risk for someone who has a history of pericarditis. Also, the study that we're all discussing here is a preprint that was posted on December 25th, so this age-stratified data obviously wasn't available when I decided to get the booster on the 17th.
  - justin66 5y ago
    My point was that you're going to get terrible advice here, so what the hell are you even doing? The overall level of intellect displayed in Hacker News COVID threads is of the holy shit, there goes my faith in humanity level of quality. Just my opinion but you are barking up the wrong tree here. (these are important questions for a person who has been treated for a heart condition to bring up with their doctor)
    - hnuser847 5y ago
      Who said I'm looking for advice? I came here to discuss the findings of the study, which are relevant to me as an under-40 male.
    - TechBro8615 5y ago
      > The overall level of intellect displayed in Hacker News COVID threads is of the holy shit, there goes my faith in humanity level of quality. Weird, this is one of the only forums online where I can read relatively civil, data-based discussions between people with opposing viewpoints that don’t devolve into calling each other anti-vaxxers or sheep. Sure there is the typical HN Dunning-Krueger noise from computer scientists discussing biology, but overall I enjoy reading the exchanges in these threads. There’s really not an equivalent forum on Reddit or Twitter with this high quality discussion around narrative-busting data.
    - dang 5y ago
      Could you please stop posting flamewar comments and otherwise breaking the site guidelines? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html No matter how right you are, or feel you are, you can make your substantive points thoughtfully and within the rules here, so please do that instead. As a bonus, your arguments will be more effective that way.
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rTX5CMRXIfFG 5y ago
I mean, if you really wanted to base your opinions on science, you wouldn’t hold off on vaccines based on a single study that is not even in the meta-analysis level, no? And since you’re the type who likes to be sure, I wonder if your hesitancy to take the vaccine is grounded on professional medical advice, at all?

justin66 5y ago

hnuser847 5y ago
A doctor can't provide me with data that doesn't exist. I actually did ask a friend who's an ER doc about whether or not I should get one of the mRNA boosters, given that I have a history of pericarditis. He said that, based on the available studies, the risk of getting pericarditis/myocarditis from COVID is far greater than the risk of getting it from the vaccine, but he also conceded that he didn't know of any studies that specifically examined the risk for someone who has a history of pericarditis. Also, the study that we're all discussing here is a preprint that was posted on December 25th, so this age-stratified data obviously wasn't available when I decided to get the booster on the 17th.
- justin66 5y ago
  My point was that you're going to get terrible advice here, so what the hell are you even doing? The overall level of intellect displayed in Hacker News COVID threads is of the holy shit, there goes my faith in humanity level of quality. Just my opinion but you are barking up the wrong tree here. (these are important questions for a person who has been treated for a heart condition to bring up with their doctor)
  - hnuser847 5y ago
    Who said I'm looking for advice? I came here to discuss the findings of the study, which are relevant to me as an under-40 male.
  - TechBro8615 5y ago
    > The overall level of intellect displayed in Hacker News COVID threads is of the holy shit, there goes my faith in humanity level of quality. Weird, this is one of the only forums online where I can read relatively civil, data-based discussions between people with opposing viewpoints that don’t devolve into calling each other anti-vaxxers or sheep. Sure there is the typical HN Dunning-Krueger noise from computer scientists discussing biology, but overall I enjoy reading the exchanges in these threads. There’s really not an equivalent forum on Reddit or Twitter with this high quality discussion around narrative-busting data.
  - dang 5y ago
    Could you please stop posting flamewar comments and otherwise breaking the site guidelines? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html No matter how right you are, or feel you are, you can make your substantive points thoughtfully and within the rules here, so please do that instead. As a bonus, your arguments will be more effective that way.

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rTX5CMRXIfFG 5y ago

I mean, if you really wanted to base your opinions on science, you wouldn’t hold off on vaccines based on a single study that is not even in the meta-analysis level, no? And since you’re the type who likes to be sure, I wonder if your hesitancy to take the vaccine is grounded on professional medical advice, at all?