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> But it does raise the question: what would a genuine online counter-culture look like? I can think of: The short-live Boogaloo meme culture The NRX movemen

> But it does raise the question: what would a genuine online counter-culture look like? I can think of: The short-live Boogaloo meme culture The NRX movement Fundamentalist religious communities Note that none of these subcultures are ever likely to be history's protagonists. But they are (or were) arrayed against the dominant culture's contemporary beliefs, narratives, and trends. 100rabbits permacomputing work is worth looking into. There are other pockets out there, typically left-leaning that are too multitudinous, heterogenous, and individually niche to be effectively categorized in a single sentence.

specialist 5y ago
Mimetics aside, because I have no idea what anyone's talking about, those are 3 reactionary movements with edgy rebellion branding. Lather, rinse, repeat.
- crocodiletears 5y ago
  I would argue that neither the Boogaloo movement nor the NRX movement (despite its name) can be considered purely reactionary. The Boogaloo movement is/was composed primarily of hardline libertarians, and right-anarchists The NRX movement makes reference to medieval texts and ancient political thought that has they are separated from by generations. To the extent that either group has cohesive visions for the future, their visions are alien to anything we've seen in the past hundred years. They envision fundamental social, governmental, and economic transformations. Retrograde, but in part only just now enabled by new technologies. They full-throatedly embrace change, but want a different kind of change. They don't fit cleanly into either box. But you don't need to be revolutionary to be counter culture. MAGA was counter culture in 2016. The Amish are counter culture, they're just not cool counter culture, or even necessarily desireable counter culture. They merely existed in opposition to cultural trends that dominant and prestige media outlets were embracing, and inspired their vocal opposition.
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specialist 5y ago

Mimetics aside, because I have no idea what anyone's talking about, those are 3 reactionary movements with edgy rebellion branding. Lather, rinse, repeat.

crocodiletears 5y ago
I would argue that neither the Boogaloo movement nor the NRX movement (despite its name) can be considered purely reactionary. The Boogaloo movement is/was composed primarily of hardline libertarians, and right-anarchists The NRX movement makes reference to medieval texts and ancient political thought that has they are separated from by generations. To the extent that either group has cohesive visions for the future, their visions are alien to anything we've seen in the past hundred years. They envision fundamental social, governmental, and economic transformations. Retrograde, but in part only just now enabled by new technologies. They full-throatedly embrace change, but want a different kind of change. They don't fit cleanly into either box. But you don't need to be revolutionary to be counter culture. MAGA was counter culture in 2016. The Amish are counter culture, they're just not cool counter culture, or even necessarily desireable counter culture. They merely existed in opposition to cultural trends that dominant and prestige media outlets were embracing, and inspired their vocal opposition.
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