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Frankly, people who buy into anti-vaxx ideology are victims of mass propaganda campaigns. And all of us suffer because of those mass propaganda campaigns.

worker767424 5y ago
Do you think it's a propaganda campaign, or maybe it's just a logical extension of longstanding talking points. What happened with Trump and the vaccine (he got booed for saying he got boosted) shows that the movement has outgrown even him, so it's basically self perpetuating.
- jjeaff 5y ago
  Trump was never really anti-vax. What Trump did to make all of this so much worse was foment distrust of the media and experts.
tasogare 5y ago
Must be nice to live in your fictional alternative universe. First the massive propaganda, enforced by governments, media and tech companies is in favor of the vaccination. There is literally no mainstream media or government on earth I can think of that are pushing an anti-vaccine agenda. Secondly if the vaccine worked, it would have stopped the epidemic already. It didn't made a dent even in countries with 90% vaccinated. This single fact should one think. And think again. The "anti-vaxxers" are the scapegoats of political and health policies that don't work.
- somewhereoutth 5y ago
  Vaccines have saved countless thousands (millions?) from hospitalisation and death, and allowed us to open up without (completely) overwhelming our health systems (or whatever it is you have in the US). No vaccine is perfect, and herd immunity (like we have for measles) would require nearly 100% coverage in all age groups - assuming it would even be possible for a virus like Covid. Vaccines could have been used with NPIs instead of in place of NPIs, which could have given us a chance of containing Covid completely. Unfortunately, not least because of the anti science voices you seem to have been listening to, this was not possible.

worker767424 5y ago

Do you think it's a propaganda campaign, or maybe it's just a logical extension of longstanding talking points. What happened with Trump and the vaccine (he got booed for saying he got boosted) shows that the movement has outgrown even him, so it's basically self perpetuating.

jjeaff 5y ago
Trump was never really anti-vax. What Trump did to make all of this so much worse was foment distrust of the media and experts.

tasogare 5y ago

Must be nice to live in your fictional alternative universe. First the massive propaganda, enforced by governments, media and tech companies is in favor of the vaccination. There is literally no mainstream media or government on earth I can think of that are pushing an anti-vaccine agenda. Secondly if the vaccine worked, it would have stopped the epidemic already. It didn't made a dent even in countries with 90% vaccinated. This single fact should one think. And think again. The "anti-vaxxers" are the scapegoats of political and health policies that don't work.

somewhereoutth 5y ago
Vaccines have saved countless thousands (millions?) from hospitalisation and death, and allowed us to open up without (completely) overwhelming our health systems (or whatever it is you have in the US). No vaccine is perfect, and herd immunity (like we have for measles) would require nearly 100% coverage in all age groups - assuming it would even be possible for a virus like Covid. Vaccines could have been used with NPIs instead of in place of NPIs, which could have given us a chance of containing Covid completely. Unfortunately, not least because of the anti science voices you seem to have been listening to, this was not possible.