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>followed a nerve gas attack playbook for a respiratory illness with a 0.2% fatality rate >I'd love to see you illustrate with numbers the DDOS that you believ

>followed a nerve gas attack playbook for a respiratory illness with a 0.2% fatality rate >I'd love to see you illustrate with numbers the DDOS that you believe the unvaccinated population is visiting on hospitals. There are only about 2.5 hospital beds per 1000 in the US. 0.2% is already 20 per thousand. Plus a lot more need(ed) hospitalization and proper medical care and oxygen in order to survive. Not to mention that hospitals have a high occupancy outside of covid, so not all beds are available just for covid patients.

stavros 5y ago
> 0.2% is already 20 per thousand. Don't you mean 2 per thousand?
inglor_cz 5y ago
I am not an antivaxxer, but 0.2 per cent is 2 per thousand, and 100 per cent of the population won't get covid at the same time, even if the entire population was naive to the virus. The worst problem with covid is probably not the raw death rate, but that the ICU patients often take weeks to either improve or die. ICUs are not designed for long stays; prior to covid, median ICU stay was fairly short (I found a figure of 2 days and mean of 3.4 days [0]). But for example, my GP, who died of covid in early 2020, stayed on life support for six weeks before his body finally gave up. [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4792682/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4792682/
tasogare 5y ago
> There are only about 2.5 hospital beds per 1000 in the US. Wow that's really third world level of beds per inhabitants. In my country it's 6, and a bit more than the double (13.1) in Japan. No wonder Japan doesn't need to take harsh measures since the hospital capacity is able to deal with it. For any US citizens or residents in this thread angry at non-vaccinated people, you should be angry against your government for under funding hospitals instead of your fellow citizens.

stavros 5y ago

> 0.2% is already 20 per thousand. Don't you mean 2 per thousand?

inglor_cz 5y ago

I am not an antivaxxer, but 0.2 per cent is 2 per thousand, and 100 per cent of the population won't get covid at the same time, even if the entire population was naive to the virus. The worst problem with covid is probably not the raw death rate, but that the ICU patients often take weeks to either improve or die. ICUs are not designed for long stays; prior to covid, median ICU stay was fairly short (I found a figure of 2 days and mean of 3.4 days [0]). But for example, my GP, who died of covid in early 2020, stayed on life support for six weeks before his body finally gave up. [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4792682/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4792682/

tasogare 5y ago

> There are only about 2.5 hospital beds per 1000 in the US. Wow that's really third world level of beds per inhabitants. In my country it's 6, and a bit more than the double (13.1) in Japan. No wonder Japan doesn't need to take harsh measures since the hospital capacity is able to deal with it. For any US citizens or residents in this thread angry at non-vaccinated people, you should be angry against your government for under funding hospitals instead of your fellow citizens.