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Even after she has helped save a loved one's life, she says, some family members have told her that they're still not sure they'll get vaccinated – and that the

Even after she has helped save a loved one's life, she says, some family members have told her that they're still not sure they'll get vaccinated – and that the coronavirus is a hoax. "I've been told by patients' families [who can't come to visit] that we are making this up to drum up business at the hospital," says Bucko. God, that must be so infuriating. When you’re as tired and stressed as these medical staff are, I don’t know how they can summon up the energy to deal with that. I’ve had a few conversations with friends about this, they’re mostly hesitant rather than fully down the rabbit hole, but every one of those conversations is totally draining.

Fomite 5y ago
Every clinician I know (I work with a lot of infectious disease doctors) have been cut to the bone with stuff like this.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  A few days ago a link was posted that made it to the homepage of a doctor that quit on account of being assaulted. People were falling over each other to claim that it was a hoax and that the account was created for the purpose of deceiving people and that such a thing would never happen. The article then got flagged. There is some serious denial going on about the impact of COVID and I really don't understand what is driving that.
  - somewhereoutth 5y ago
    Money and ideology. Money because restrictions shutdown the cashflows that support the rich in the lifestyle to which they've become accustomed. Ideology because if we can come together to fix Covid, maybe we can come together to fix climate change and inequality. This is an anathema to those who believe that we should all carry on just as we please, because we can't do anything about these things anyway (and cashflows again).
mythrwy 5y ago
- jacquesm 5y ago
  The vaccines work quite well. Check the ratio of the number of infected people to the number of people that get seriously ill or die over time. Then correlate with when the main vaccine drive started. The effect is clear.
  - mythrwy 5y ago
    - jacquesm 5y ago
      No, the effect slowly degrades. And helps a lot. > Injuries and deaths for people who would have almost certainly not have received such from Covid. Statistically the harm for any age group except for the very youngest (though even there things are changing) is that you benefit from the vaccin vs the risks associated with a COVID infection without anything to help your immune system from dealing with it. > Do little if anything to stop spread. They do quite a bit, but they're not perfect. > That is not "well". It's a damn sight better than nothing and compared to where we were before it probably should be 'very well' instead of just well.
spaetzleesser 5y ago
“that we are making this up to drum up business at the hospital” At least in the US this kind of thinking makes some sense if you ever had the pleasure of dealing with insane hospital bills. They are greedy bastards. It’s sad a lot of health workers are doing great work and sacrificing their health while working for morally corrupt institutions like hospitals.
- mleonhard 5y ago
  State medical licensing boards are also corrupt institutions. They use quotas to limit the number of practicing doctors. The result is the ongoing doctor shortage and overwork, resulting in lower-quality care for everyone.

Fomite 5y ago

Every clinician I know (I work with a lot of infectious disease doctors) have been cut to the bone with stuff like this.

jacquesm 5y ago
A few days ago a link was posted that made it to the homepage of a doctor that quit on account of being assaulted. People were falling over each other to claim that it was a hoax and that the account was created for the purpose of deceiving people and that such a thing would never happen. The article then got flagged. There is some serious denial going on about the impact of COVID and I really don't understand what is driving that.
- somewhereoutth 5y ago
  Money and ideology. Money because restrictions shutdown the cashflows that support the rich in the lifestyle to which they've become accustomed. Ideology because if we can come together to fix Covid, maybe we can come together to fix climate change and inequality. This is an anathema to those who believe that we should all carry on just as we please, because we can't do anything about these things anyway (and cashflows again).

mythrwy 5y ago

jacquesm 5y ago
The vaccines work quite well. Check the ratio of the number of infected people to the number of people that get seriously ill or die over time. Then correlate with when the main vaccine drive started. The effect is clear.
- mythrwy 5y ago
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    No, the effect slowly degrades. And helps a lot. > Injuries and deaths for people who would have almost certainly not have received such from Covid. Statistically the harm for any age group except for the very youngest (though even there things are changing) is that you benefit from the vaccin vs the risks associated with a COVID infection without anything to help your immune system from dealing with it. > Do little if anything to stop spread. They do quite a bit, but they're not perfect. > That is not "well". It's a damn sight better than nothing and compared to where we were before it probably should be 'very well' instead of just well.

spaetzleesser 5y ago

“that we are making this up to drum up business at the hospital” At least in the US this kind of thinking makes some sense if you ever had the pleasure of dealing with insane hospital bills. They are greedy bastards. It’s sad a lot of health workers are doing great work and sacrificing their health while working for morally corrupt institutions like hospitals.

mleonhard 5y ago
State medical licensing boards are also corrupt institutions. They use quotas to limit the number of practicing doctors. The result is the ongoing doctor shortage and overwork, resulting in lower-quality care for everyone.