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Thank you. Pretty much the answer I wanted to give, but much better than I could. And I am not just trying to latch onto the first unknown that's brought up un

Thank you. Pretty much the answer I wanted to give, but much better than I could. And I am not just trying to latch onto the first unknown that's brought up under my comment, these are very similar to the concerns that I had in mind and wanted to bring up. At the wavelengths we would now be dealing with and exposing ourselves to, there may be - and with some evidence already pointing there probably being surprising and not immediately intuitive (mostly) biological interactions or disruptions to interactions our biology relies on that we are yet unaware or haven't understood leading to phenomenons we haven't considered such as the example you've given.

jcims 5y ago
I tend to be a bit of a fence rider when it comes to these types of things. Re: 5g we have so much accumulated knowledge and experience dealing with RF that the likelihood that we're going to be caught completely offguard and have no reasonable mitigation seems pretty low. At the same time, it's pretty obvious that our biology didn't have an opportunity to adapt to the types of energy we're putting into the environment and we'd be well served to keep an open mind about what the possible effects could be and how we would test and/or monitor for them. There are other contemporary topics that suffer this same pathology. Reasonable questions raised in good faith get slapped down regularly and I think we pay a collective price for it. Of course some questions aren't reasonable and certainly not all are raised in good faith, so it's not exactly an easy problem to solve.
- monetus 5y ago
  I keep wondering if any insects are going to discombobulated by thinking along those lines - but am a complete layman
  - jcims 5y ago
    Affected, absolutely. Unknown to what degree or if it would be any worse then the billions smashed on windshields or fogged out of existence every year. Interesting paper on using EM simulations on finely detailed insect models to determine net energy absorption and associated properties: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-22271-3 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-22271-3

jcims 5y ago

I tend to be a bit of a fence rider when it comes to these types of things. Re: 5g we have so much accumulated knowledge and experience dealing with RF that the likelihood that we're going to be caught completely offguard and have no reasonable mitigation seems pretty low. At the same time, it's pretty obvious that our biology didn't have an opportunity to adapt to the types of energy we're putting into the environment and we'd be well served to keep an open mind about what the possible effects could be and how we would test and/or monitor for them. There are other contemporary topics that suffer this same pathology. Reasonable questions raised in good faith get slapped down regularly and I think we pay a collective price for it. Of course some questions aren't reasonable and certainly not all are raised in good faith, so it's not exactly an easy problem to solve.

monetus 5y ago
I keep wondering if any insects are going to discombobulated by thinking along those lines - but am a complete layman
- jcims 5y ago
  Affected, absolutely. Unknown to what degree or if it would be any worse then the billions smashed on windshields or fogged out of existence every year. Interesting paper on using EM simulations on finely detailed insect models to determine net energy absorption and associated properties: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-22271-3 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-22271-3