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My Mac is provided by my work. I work in finance doing infrastructure for retail banking. Tell me again how VR is going to help me for deploying networks and cl

My Mac is provided by my work. I work in finance doing infrastructure for retail banking. Tell me again how VR is going to help me for deploying networks and clusters and turning off my camera in video calls whilst I go on Reddit

scyzoryk_xyz 5y ago
Well, we don’t know, yet. You could easily turn the clock 30 years back and ask the same question with smartphones/computers. When a truly profound device hits the market we’ll see a very creative race to come up with all the different uses for it imho.
- squiffsquiff 5y ago
  I'm pretty sure that computers were around 30 years ago, including in banking. While smartphones are a newer development and I do use mine all the time, I can't say that it has any serious impact on my work that would not be achieved with my laptop and a dumb phone. I think you need to look at the phrase 'truly profound' that you're using and consider what that actually means in context: the world wide Web has had a truly profound impact on human development contrasted to promote media. Colour TV, for example, hasn't (given radio, cinema, black and white TV already existing)
  - mlajtos 5y ago
    'Truly profound' comes from 'seeing software on tiny rectangle' vs. 'being in the software'. The full immersion is the true innovation here.
  - scyzoryk_xyz 5y ago
    Well, my point more so revolves around the currently uninvented and the unimaginable uses that developers have yet to deliver on that “profound” device after it arrives, becomes prevalent, the details are figured out etc. That’s what made smartphones exciting for a couple years, right? Not only were we buying devices that were doing the things that we expected them to, but new uses and applications for them were being delivered regularly. When we imagine the new paradigm we’re usually constrained by the current one.
mlajtos 5y ago
How many monitors do you use?
- squiffsquiff 5y ago
  2 normally
  - mlajtos 5y ago
    > I work in finance doing infrastructure for retail banking. I am using two monitors. Tell me how VR is going to help me for deploying networks and clusters... I imagine DevOps as really close to mode of operation to programming – you google stuff, write things in text files, have terminals open, etc. This type of work trades short-term memory for screen real estate – you need to see a lot of stuff at the same time (everything is one saccade away). That's why you have two monitors. One head-mounted display can simulate any number of monitors, while your desk is free to be used for physical stuff that matter. You can pack these monitors into your bag for work-from-home scenario and you don't have to do any additional setup – everything is right where you left it.
    - squiffsquiff 5y ago
      > 'I imagine'... Yeah, you missed the part where I'm zoning out on reddit and checking my phone during the boring bits of video calls, didn't you? The real world isn't imaginary and I don't want my entire reality susbsumed in my employer's walled garden. Also f*k packing everything in a bag. I work from home 99% of the time. The other 1% external monitors are provided but I'm not doing any proper workstation-based work.
      - mlajtos 5y ago
        Reddit is just another window alongside your work and you'll still be able to see your phone – the virtual monitors are fixed in real world coordinates, so nothing is obstructing your view when you look away.

scyzoryk_xyz 5y ago

Well, we don’t know, yet. You could easily turn the clock 30 years back and ask the same question with smartphones/computers. When a truly profound device hits the market we’ll see a very creative race to come up with all the different uses for it imho.

squiffsquiff 5y ago
I'm pretty sure that computers were around 30 years ago, including in banking. While smartphones are a newer development and I do use mine all the time, I can't say that it has any serious impact on my work that would not be achieved with my laptop and a dumb phone. I think you need to look at the phrase 'truly profound' that you're using and consider what that actually means in context: the world wide Web has had a truly profound impact on human development contrasted to promote media. Colour TV, for example, hasn't (given radio, cinema, black and white TV already existing)
- mlajtos 5y ago
  'Truly profound' comes from 'seeing software on tiny rectangle' vs. 'being in the software'. The full immersion is the true innovation here.
- scyzoryk_xyz 5y ago
  Well, my point more so revolves around the currently uninvented and the unimaginable uses that developers have yet to deliver on that “profound” device after it arrives, becomes prevalent, the details are figured out etc. That’s what made smartphones exciting for a couple years, right? Not only were we buying devices that were doing the things that we expected them to, but new uses and applications for them were being delivered regularly. When we imagine the new paradigm we’re usually constrained by the current one.

mlajtos 5y ago

How many monitors do you use?

squiffsquiff 5y ago
2 normally
- mlajtos 5y ago
  > I work in finance doing infrastructure for retail banking. I am using two monitors. Tell me how VR is going to help me for deploying networks and clusters... I imagine DevOps as really close to mode of operation to programming – you google stuff, write things in text files, have terminals open, etc. This type of work trades short-term memory for screen real estate – you need to see a lot of stuff at the same time (everything is one saccade away). That's why you have two monitors. One head-mounted display can simulate any number of monitors, while your desk is free to be used for physical stuff that matter. You can pack these monitors into your bag for work-from-home scenario and you don't have to do any additional setup – everything is right where you left it.
  - squiffsquiff 5y ago
    > 'I imagine'... Yeah, you missed the part where I'm zoning out on reddit and checking my phone during the boring bits of video calls, didn't you? The real world isn't imaginary and I don't want my entire reality susbsumed in my employer's walled garden. Also f*k packing everything in a bag. I work from home 99% of the time. The other 1% external monitors are provided but I'm not doing any proper workstation-based work.
    - mlajtos 5y ago
      Reddit is just another window alongside your work and you'll still be able to see your phone – the virtual monitors are fixed in real world coordinates, so nothing is obstructing your view when you look away.