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Not for a car comparable to a Model S. The parallels are almost perfect though: - If you want to buy just the cylinder block (not even a short block actually!
by BoorishBears 5y ago
Not for a car comparable to a Model S.
The parallels are almost perfect though:
- If you want to buy just the cylinder block (not even a short block actually!) for 10 year old top of the line Mercedes Benz direct from your dealer? $24,000 https://mbparts.mbusa.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-cylinder-block-1560101505 https://mbparts.mbusa.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-cylinder-b... And that still needs another 10-20k in parts to be a functional motor
- But buy a rebuilt long block from a junked car and you can probably get one for about 10k
- If you're willing to do some work you can probably pull one yourself in a junkyard for a couple thousand. (really a couple of hundred, but factor in getting it to your installer, tools to get it out, etc.)
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I will say the challenge with EVs is the risks are higher for reconditioning.
If you buy a poorly rebuilt engine, yes in theory you car can go up in flames, but most likely if it doesn't seize up after install, you're in the clear.
If you buy a poorly reconditioned car battery, you have a permanently dangerous problem lurking, and it likely only gets worse...
Edit: Also the floor is definitely lower for ICEs. There are engines out there that are so ubiquitous you could replace them for a couple of beers and a friendly pick and pull place.
Battery packs on the other hand are way too complex to have that sort pipeline. Even if old packs become ubiquitous the risk of improperly handled battery packs means there'll have to be a "blessed path" batteries follow after removal. You can't exactly start tossing battery packs around with cranes the way we currently do with scrap ICEs
- dmoy 5y agoSure but Mercedes isn't known for cheap maintenance either. Going with the Honda analogy here, you can rebuild an Acura engine for a lot cheaper, or still replace it entirely for cheaper than $22k.
- BoorishBears 5y agoThe bracket the Model S lives in isn't known for cheap maintenance, and remember 22k is including labor The RLX was the closest Acura had, and while significantly cheaper than the S class, and installing a new engine is definitely in the ballpark of $22k Head + block is already pushing 10k (https://estore.honda.com/acura/parts/view-acura-parts-catalog-detail.asp?m=2015-rdx-5-tech2wd-6at&sn=&b=E++2010&dl= https://estore.honda.com/acura/parts/view-acura-parts-catalo...) Add in the internals, gaskets, accessories, then top it off with labor and you might even be over (especially since Honda/Acura won't sell you an assembled long block) - In general manufacturers will not sell you a whole engine for a sensible amount of money, and if it's a luxury car that's doubly true. Rebuilding is always going to be the economical option but that's not exclusive to ICEs. Tesla packs get reconditioned by 3rd parties despite their (relative) complexity, and other cars have cottage industries that have formed around their battery packs like the Leaf and Prius. The floor replacement on an ICE is lower as I mentioned, but the Model S and competitors are near the ceiling for this kind of thing
- egberts1 5y ago$2,100 to replace Honda Accord engine, late 2000 at the shop.