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There are plenty of scenarios where you're given money for doing nothing. Child tax credits. Unemployment insurance. Redundancy monies. Investment income. Socia

There are plenty of scenarios where you're given money for doing nothing. Child tax credits. Unemployment insurance. Redundancy monies. Investment income. Social security. List goes on.

josephcsible 5y ago
Unemployment insurance is supposed to be for supporting you if you lose your job while you look for a new one. Redundancy monies and investment income aren't free money from the government (i.e., out of my taxes and/or printed, causing inflation), so they're not a problem. Social security is for people who are disabled or too old to work.
- DarylZero 5y ago
  Free money from the government is the best form that free money can take. If the free stuff isn't given out by government, it will be captured by plutocrats with no democratic accountability.
  - josephcsible 5y ago
    The problem is that the government can't run out of money, so when free stuff from the government goes runaway, the whole economy gets wrecked. If free stuff from private companies goes runaway, then the private companies will run out of money and go out of business.
    - DarylZero 5y ago
      I didn't say free stuff FROM private companies. There's a lot of free stuff in the world, and if governments don't distribute it, then it will be captured (not distributed!) by a plutocratic elite.
renewiltord 5y ago
Not speaking as to the rest but child tax credits are payment for putting in the work for building tomorrow’s labour force. I fully support paying people for making productive kids. And absent that, I fully support paying people for making kids (without testing the kids for productivity), assuming most kids turn out productive (which they do).
PopAlongKid 5y ago
Unemployment and Social Security are insurance programs. You didn't "do nothing", you paid premiums (either directly as with SS, or indirectly through your employer in the case of UI). Would you say that receiving an insurance pay-out if your house burns down is being "given money for doing nothing"? Unemployment in particular is normally only available if you are laid off through no fault of your own and are actively looking for work. "Looking for work" does not mean you have to accept absolutely any possible job that comes along, you are allowed to continue looking for jobs that suit your skills and experience.

There are plenty of scenarios where you're given money for doing nothing. Child tax credits. Unemployment insurance. Redundancy monies. Investment income. Social security. List goes on.

josephcsible 5y ago

Unemployment insurance is supposed to be for supporting you if you lose your job while you look for a new one. Redundancy monies and investment income aren't free money from the government (i.e., out of my taxes and/or printed, causing inflation), so they're not a problem. Social security is for people who are disabled or too old to work.

DarylZero 5y ago
Free money from the government is the best form that free money can take. If the free stuff isn't given out by government, it will be captured by plutocrats with no democratic accountability.
- josephcsible 5y ago
  The problem is that the government can't run out of money, so when free stuff from the government goes runaway, the whole economy gets wrecked. If free stuff from private companies goes runaway, then the private companies will run out of money and go out of business.
  - DarylZero 5y ago
    I didn't say free stuff FROM private companies. There's a lot of free stuff in the world, and if governments don't distribute it, then it will be captured (not distributed!) by a plutocratic elite.

renewiltord 5y ago

Not speaking as to the rest but child tax credits are payment for putting in the work for building tomorrow’s labour force. I fully support paying people for making productive kids. And absent that, I fully support paying people for making kids (without testing the kids for productivity), assuming most kids turn out productive (which they do).

PopAlongKid 5y ago

Unemployment and Social Security are insurance programs. You didn't "do nothing", you paid premiums (either directly as with SS, or indirectly through your employer in the case of UI). Would you say that receiving an insurance pay-out if your house burns down is being "given money for doing nothing"? Unemployment in particular is normally only available if you are laid off through no fault of your own and are actively looking for work. "Looking for work" does not mean you have to accept absolutely any possible job that comes along, you are allowed to continue looking for jobs that suit your skills and experience.