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We don't have to treat each other as humans, either, by that logic.
by shukantpal 5y ago
We don't have to treat each other as humans, either, by that logic.
- emteycz 5y agoWho said you should extend that logic from advertising to personal relationships?
- shukantpal 5y agoI don't have a personal relationship with you.
- emteycz 5y agoPeople-to-people relationships, sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker.
- b3morales 5y agoAre you saying that the only reason to treat other humans well is because the law says you must? I would say that is precisely backwards: one should treat other humans well, for a variety of reasons. We write that down in law as a shared agreement. But the law is not itself the reason -- it springs from the reasons.
- shukantpal 5y agoWell the OP's post was based on rejecting all those "reasons" you're talking about. Those reasons can also apply to other things like not doing theft, not burning down other people's properties, etc.
- hammock 5y agoThat is so true! And just as there are people who dehumanize, there are laws which do the same.
- DarylZero 5y agoThere's no "logic" at all here. All I did was point out how the other person didn't even make an argument. Nor did you. You just appeal to some popular notion that everyone already agrees with ("treat humans like humans"). Then you suggest this is the same as the other thing, again giving no reason. Maybe you really can give reason to someone, who abuses people, not to do it. To treat humans as humans. But you would have to delude yourself to think you already did it here.
- shukantpal 5y agoYou are making an argument here, that the other person didn't make an argument; that means you were applying logic. Your logic is that there's nothing stopping you from breaking societal norms and doing whatever you have the physical capability to do. Therefore, you can destroy property you don't like (advertisements). You can extend that logic to say that you "can" abuse humans. But your logic totally misses societal context. When someone says "can", they aren't talking about pure physical capability. That's why no one in their right mind will say "I can stab you".
- ipaddr 5y agoSocial norms can be accepting of such activities if you surround yourself with a like minded group. Living within whatever social norms exist is common but progressives and activists try to break the social norm. Taboos are real and get broken everyday.. cousins date, 70 year old women and getting together with 20 year olds, there are mothers who hate their kids. Each social rule broken can have punishments.. wearing white after labor day can get you not invited to a social event. But that doesn't mean you should imprison yourself trying to live within other people's rules. Drawing a funny face on an ad has a low punishment rate, low chance of being cast out of society vs stabbing someone randomly. You can reject some rules and follow others. It has always been your choice.
- shukantpal 5y agoThanks for stating the obvious.
- Timwi 5y agoCorrect. I don't treat people as humans out of logic. I do it out of compassion and empathy. I do not have compassion or empathy for ads.