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I can’t stand ads on government property, particularly in spaces where I am captive. The best example is public transportation. There are ads all over the stati

by habosa 5y ago

I can’t stand ads on government property, particularly in spaces where I am captive. The best example is public transportation. There are ads all over the station and then ads all over the interior (and exterior) of the train/bus during your ride. Why should I be subjected to this private noise while taking public transportation? Some city needs to stand up and fix this. Allow me to get where I am going in peace.

rambambram 5y ago
Exactly. I can stand ads on the internet, I just block 'm. I can stand ads on private property. But just don't scream for my attention on (semi)public properties. The price of that sh!t is already covered by taxes. And if it's not, the officials are incompetent.
- Symbiote 5y ago
  Transport for London (9000 buses, 985 trains, trams, hire bicycles, taxi administration, disabled people transport, some trains, some major roads in London, 755km of railway track) have a budget of £9.7 billion, of which £5.1 billion is from passengers (tickets etc), and £0.16 billion from advertising. That is lower than I thought it would be, and lower than one would expect given the space TfL dedicate to advertising in their budget report. I would pay 3% more on travel tickets to not have any advertising. https://content.tfl.gov.uk/tfl-budget-2020-21.pdf https://content.tfl.gov.uk/tfl-budget-2020-21.pdf (this is pre-Covid.)
  - ghusbands 5y ago
    Even if it were all advert free at some point, someone with a huge advertising budget would probably offer hundreds of millions to be a 'sponsor' and get their logos all over the place, and then the advertising will start again. Even the £160 million they're getting now would likely be enough to persuade them, as it's not a trivial amount, even compared to their overall budget.
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will4274 5y ago
Would you pay higher taxes to avoid those ads? I think it's hard when our public transportation is chronically underfunded. Politicians and voters see corporate (advertising) funding as less onerous that citizen (taxes) funding.
- midasuni 5y ago
  In London adverts bring in less than 10% of the firebox revenue. Rather than spend £2.30 on a journey charge £2.50 and you’re set.
ipaddr 5y ago
They accept ads because the city needs a way to pay for your trip. Faires can be raised but that shuts out a class of people who need public transit more than you who will gladly trade a few ads for a few dollars on each trip.

by habosa 5y ago

rambambram 5y ago

Exactly. I can stand ads on the internet, I just block 'm. I can stand ads on private property. But just don't scream for my attention on (semi)public properties. The price of that sh!t is already covered by taxes. And if it's not, the officials are incompetent.

Symbiote 5y ago
Transport for London (9000 buses, 985 trains, trams, hire bicycles, taxi administration, disabled people transport, some trains, some major roads in London, 755km of railway track) have a budget of £9.7 billion, of which £5.1 billion is from passengers (tickets etc), and £0.16 billion from advertising. That is lower than I thought it would be, and lower than one would expect given the space TfL dedicate to advertising in their budget report. I would pay 3% more on travel tickets to not have any advertising. https://content.tfl.gov.uk/tfl-budget-2020-21.pdf https://content.tfl.gov.uk/tfl-budget-2020-21.pdf (this is pre-Covid.)
- ghusbands 5y ago
  Even if it were all advert free at some point, someone with a huge advertising budget would probably offer hundreds of millions to be a 'sponsor' and get their logos all over the place, and then the advertising will start again. Even the £160 million they're getting now would likely be enough to persuade them, as it's not a trivial amount, even compared to their overall budget.

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will4274 5y ago

Would you pay higher taxes to avoid those ads? I think it's hard when our public transportation is chronically underfunded. Politicians and voters see corporate (advertising) funding as less onerous that citizen (taxes) funding.

midasuni 5y ago
In London adverts bring in less than 10% of the firebox revenue. Rather than spend £2.30 on a journey charge £2.50 and you’re set.

ipaddr 5y ago

They accept ads because the city needs a way to pay for your trip. Faires can be raised but that shuts out a class of people who need public transit more than you who will gladly trade a few ads for a few dollars on each trip.