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This is very similar to my story. I moved to America from Ireland in 2007 after graduating with a degree in cs. I did a year in grad school before working in te
by htormey 5y ago
This is very similar to my story. I moved to America from Ireland in 2007 after graduating with a degree in cs. I did a year in grad school before working in tech in the Bay Area for more than a decade, including at two companies from FAANG. I also ran a consulting business and for the last 3 years worked at Coinbase.
I don’t consider myself in anyway special. I know many people from Europe who went down this path.
The sad reality is that in Europe software engineers don’t get paid very well relative to the value they create. It’s a lot better today in my home country Ireland than it was a decade or so ago but salaries and opportunities are still nowhere near as good as in the USA.
Unless you are very lucky, if you want to make a lot of money and work with the top people in your profession, you will have to move. This will likely involve risk and personal sacrifice. If I was to distill this guys journey into a high level formula it would be as follows:
1) Pick a fast growing industry you are interested in.
2) Move to the area which pays you the most and where the most opportunities are.
3) work with top people and adapt your career based on what you see them do.
4) live reasonably, save and invest.
I see a lot of people from Europe in the comments saying this is unrealistic or that it would be hard to replicate this success doing the same thing today. I disagree.
While the specifics of the plan might be different for todays 20 year olds. I.e specialize in cryptocurrency or machine learning or fintech. The overall approach is still valid, it just involves a lot of sacrifices and risks you may not be willing to take.
- georgeburdell 5y ago>I don’t consider myself in anyway special As someone who has within the last few months failed three FAANG on-sites and a Coinbase phone screen, I’d say you’re special.
- htormey 5y agoI hate tech interviews. If it’s any consolation, I remember when I interviewed at Apple, I failed 10 interviews for multiple teams over 2 years before I got my first job.
- ambrose2 5y agoI thought there was a maximum lifetime limit for applying e.g. 3?
- TideAd 5y agoFAANG interviews are best approached as iterative steps. That is: expect that you'll fail the majority of them (this is true for most capable people) and keep doing them as regularly as you can until you get an offer. I bet most engineers at these companies did not get an offer on their first 3 tries. This is not a big deal at all because they'll let you interview over and over after cool-off periods.
- thesimon 5y ago>I did a year in grad school before working in tech in the Bay Area for more than a decade, including at two companies from FAANG. I guess moved there with a F-1 visa, then F1 OPT and then H1-B? The "best" flow at the moment from what I have seen seems to be working for FAANG in Europe and then moving with a L1 visa, though that depends of course on the company.
- htormey 5y agoYep. That was my plan, do the cheapest best course that would get me an F1 (student visa) then do an internship with OPT and switch to full time. Agreed, re FAANG or other companies that have a USA presence.