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Not exceptional in Switzerland, Norway and UK

by sakex 5y ago

keewee7 5y ago
The UK has low software developer salaries. Especially when you take into consideration that it is a highly developed English-speaking country.
- mgaunard 5y ago
  100k USD is 75k GBP. Many junior developer roles in London will pay 50k. Some finance ones will pay 75k or more. 600k USD / 450k GBP is also definitely reachable for a senior developer at team leader level or comparable.
  - Xenoamorphous 5y ago
    450k as a team lead? I’ve never heard of that. In itjobswatch.co.uk highest median salary for London is around 200k.
    - mgaunard 5y ago
      The good jobs aren't going to be advertised on whatever website this is, they use headhunters. Also at this level you enter into a negotiation with the business stakeholders, compensation package is tailored to each profile and opportunity.
      - WastingMyTime89 5y ago
        I like how people always feel the need to shift a discussion on actual salary that normal people experience to a few job mostly in finance negotiated directly with key stack holders to pretend things are comparable. Let’s forget that salaries in Europe are ridiculously low to focus on the handful of people who might get an extraordinary position - still paid less than an equivalent one in North America nevertheless - and pretends its doable and everything is fine.
        mgaunard 5y ago
        While London is a finance hot spot, jobs from Google, Facebook or similarly competing company will also be in that range. And that's not even the top salaries, there are also jobs that pay in millions. You'll also find similar salaries in Amsterdam, Paris, Zurich... I'm just stating that jobs that pay the same as in the article do exist in Europe, and I don't believe they're as exceptional as you suggest. There just is a large spectrum of salaries for software engineering, and as we all know, 90% of everything is crud, so of course the median will be much lower.
      - oblio 5y ago
        And this applies to 0.0001% of people, at best, so in practice it's not actually attainable.
    - ZephyrBlu 5y ago
      Median is not the same as reachable.

Not exceptional in Switzerland, Norway and UK

by sakex 5y ago

Not exceptional in Switzerland, Norway and UK

The UK has low software developer salaries. Especially when you take into consideration that it is a highly developed English-speaking country.

mgaunard 5y ago
100k USD is 75k GBP. Many junior developer roles in London will pay 50k. Some finance ones will pay 75k or more. 600k USD / 450k GBP is also definitely reachable for a senior developer at team leader level or comparable.
- Xenoamorphous 5y ago
  450k as a team lead? I’ve never heard of that. In itjobswatch.co.uk highest median salary for London is around 200k.
  - mgaunard 5y ago
    The good jobs aren't going to be advertised on whatever website this is, they use headhunters. Also at this level you enter into a negotiation with the business stakeholders, compensation package is tailored to each profile and opportunity.
    - WastingMyTime89 5y ago
      I like how people always feel the need to shift a discussion on actual salary that normal people experience to a few job mostly in finance negotiated directly with key stack holders to pretend things are comparable. Let’s forget that salaries in Europe are ridiculously low to focus on the handful of people who might get an extraordinary position - still paid less than an equivalent one in North America nevertheless - and pretends its doable and everything is fine.
      - mgaunard 5y ago
        While London is a finance hot spot, jobs from Google, Facebook or similarly competing company will also be in that range. And that's not even the top salaries, there are also jobs that pay in millions. You'll also find similar salaries in Amsterdam, Paris, Zurich... I'm just stating that jobs that pay the same as in the article do exist in Europe, and I don't believe they're as exceptional as you suggest. There just is a large spectrum of salaries for software engineering, and as we all know, 90% of everything is crud, so of course the median will be much lower.
    - oblio 5y ago
      And this applies to 0.0001% of people, at best, so in practice it's not actually attainable.
  - ZephyrBlu 5y ago
    Median is not the same as reachable.