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I wonder why it's not more broadly advertised as "let's turn this thing into a cold/flu" thanks to vaccination? To my profane mind, that seems like a simple mes

by steeve 5y ago

I wonder why it's not more broadly advertised as "let's turn this thing into a cold/flu" thanks to vaccination? To my profane mind, that seems like a simple message everybody understands, and kind of agrees to, at least around me. Am I deluded?

derbOac 5y ago
Some unvaccinated have always maintained COVID is equivalent to the seasonal flu. So from that standpoint getting vaccinated should do more than that. I agree with your thinking in general but am not sure it would reach everyone in the way you might think.
blagie 5y ago
Yes, but it's a mass delusion. 1) Vaccination doesn't appear to turn COVID19 into a cold/flu, except for death rates (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03495-2/ https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03495-2/) 2) If it did, COVID spreading wildly would mean more variants would evolve, and specifically, vaccine-hopping ones. COVID has shown how bad variants can get. It's worth looking at diseases both historically and world-wide for how these things can effect humanity. Part of the reason for mass delusions is oversimplified messaging. At this point, we should have been able to educate everyone about COVID19 to the level where we could hold rational discussion, and perhaps even discuss things like probabilities (we don't know X, and there's a chance of Y and a chance of Z, rather than polarized battles).
- smorgusofborg 5y ago
  Looking at that nature article I think the delusion is that influenza hasn't also been causing many more problems in young healthy people like the ones described and that makes it hard to have a real discussion about what to do if after everyone has had at least one exposure to a COVID virus we end up with data showing we have gotten to two pandemics that should be equally (un)acceptable.

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I wonder why it's not more broadly advertised as "let's turn this thing into a cold/flu" thanks to vaccination? To my profane mind, that seems like a simple mes

by steeve 5y ago

derbOac 5y ago
Some unvaccinated have always maintained COVID is equivalent to the seasonal flu. So from that standpoint getting vaccinated should do more than that. I agree with your thinking in general but am not sure it would reach everyone in the way you might think.
blagie 5y ago
Yes, but it's a mass delusion. 1) Vaccination doesn't appear to turn COVID19 into a cold/flu, except for death rates (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03495-2/ https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03495-2/) 2) If it did, COVID spreading wildly would mean more variants would evolve, and specifically, vaccine-hopping ones. COVID has shown how bad variants can get. It's worth looking at diseases both historically and world-wide for how these things can effect humanity. Part of the reason for mass delusions is oversimplified messaging. At this point, we should have been able to educate everyone about COVID19 to the level where we could hold rational discussion, and perhaps even discuss things like probabilities (we don't know X, and there's a chance of Y and a chance of Z, rather than polarized battles).
- smorgusofborg 5y ago
  Looking at that nature article I think the delusion is that influenza hasn't also been causing many more problems in young healthy people like the ones described and that makes it hard to have a real discussion about what to do if after everyone has had at least one exposure to a COVID virus we end up with data showing we have gotten to two pandemics that should be equally (un)acceptable.