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The AWS console is designed so that you won’t use it at scale, since the “right way” is through terraform/cloudformation etc. This is the only explanation I hav

by tibbar 5y ago

The AWS console is designed so that you won’t use it at scale, since the “right way” is through terraform/cloudformation etc. This is the only explanation I have at this point for the lack of basic stuff like visualizations of running infrastructure. “If I were running it”, the console would have an entirely visual mode where you can drag and drop infrastructure that’s fully interoperable with a tabular view. It would allow you to see at a glance what you’re running and what it’s doing and what is costing money. The current manifestation as a bunch of tables listing individual items that have secret cross dependencies is just, so much less than what it could be.

hericium 5y ago
> the lack of basic stuff like visualizations of running infrastructure But... this would help Amazon's customers save money. > “If I were running it”, the console would have an entirely visual mode where you can drag and drop infrastructure Honestly, I'm glad that you're not running it. My main issue with their web console is that it forces you to close repeating modals/popups multiple times a day, even within the same account. Like when you open EC2 console and you have to click on a top modal praising new interface. Every refresh gives you this modal to close. Giving in and forcing yourself to use the new interface won't help much, as you'll have to start closing modals asking you to comment on its usability. This one won't reappear within same account when closed but this is just EC2. Enter billing console and you may find 3 modals on top on every sub-page: red one stating that you have payments past due, green one stating that you have no payments past due and blue one being an ad for a new Payments interface. All at the same time. Other services will nag you and force you to close more and more modals and popups every time you open some service's console. When I found myself mindlessly closing console[1] modals and popups without reading, I've got a strong "this is not right" feeling. [1] https://consle.aws.amazon.com/ https://consle.aws.amazon.com/

by tibbar 5y ago

hericium 5y ago

> the lack of basic stuff like visualizations of running infrastructure But... this would help Amazon's customers save money. > “If I were running it”, the console would have an entirely visual mode where you can drag and drop infrastructure Honestly, I'm glad that you're not running it. My main issue with their web console is that it forces you to close repeating modals/popups multiple times a day, even within the same account. Like when you open EC2 console and you have to click on a top modal praising new interface. Every refresh gives you this modal to close. Giving in and forcing yourself to use the new interface won't help much, as you'll have to start closing modals asking you to comment on its usability. This one won't reappear within same account when closed but this is just EC2. Enter billing console and you may find 3 modals on top on every sub-page: red one stating that you have payments past due, green one stating that you have no payments past due and blue one being an ad for a new Payments interface. All at the same time. Other services will nag you and force you to close more and more modals and popups every time you open some service's console. When I found myself mindlessly closing console[1] modals and popups without reading, I've got a strong "this is not right" feeling. [1] https://consle.aws.amazon.com/ https://consle.aws.amazon.com/