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by sinity 5y ago
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> For the reasons suggested by Cochran, Hardy, and Harpending, Ashkenazi Jews had the potential for very high intelligence. They were mostly too poor and discriminated against to take advantage of it. Around 1880, this changed in a few advanced Central European economies like Germany, Austria, and Hungary. Austria didn’t have many Jews. Germany had a lot of Jews, but it was a big country, so nobody really noticed. Hungary had a lot of Jews, all concentrated in Budapest, and so it was really surprising when all of a sudden everyone from Budapest started winning Nobel Prizes around the same time. This continued until World War II, and then all anyone remembered was “Hey, wasn’t it funny that so many smart people were born in Budapest between 1880 and 1920?”
> And this story is really, really, gloomy.
> For centuries, Europe was sitting on this vast untapped resource of potential geniuses. Around 1880, in a few countries only, economic and political conditions finally became ripe for the potential to be realized. The result was one of the greatest spurts of progress in scientific history, bringing us relativity, quantum mechanics, nuclear bombs, dazzling new mathematical systems, the foundations of digital computing, and various other abstruse ideas I don’t even pretend to understand. This lasted for approximately one generation, after which a psychopath with a stupid mustache killed everyone involved.
> I certainly can’t claim that the Jews were the only people being crazy smart in Central Europe around this time. This was the age of Bohr, Schrodinger, Planck, Curie, etc. But part of me wonders even here. If you have one physicist in a town, he sits in an armchair and thinks. If you have five physicists in a town, they meet and talk and try to help each other with their theories. If you have fifty physicists in a town, they can get funding and start a university department. If you have a hundred, maybe some of them can go into teaching or administration and help support the others.
- morpheos137 5y agoDoubtless Hungarian Ashkenazim like von Neumann, Teller, Erdos, Soros were extraordinarily intelligent but I also wonder how much of this has to do with family environments and social connections vs. just innate capability. An upper middle class bourgeois upbringing can do wonders for intellectual development. Kind of a chicken vs. the egg problem.
- ProAm 5y agoAre you saying their genius was a result of their class?
- wolfram74 5y agoHaving enough to eat and free time to think certainly didn't hurt.
- asciimov 5y agoGenius level intellect is fairly well distributed amount the global population. However, the opportunity for these people to add to the collective knowledge isn’t well distributed. If you look at the backgrounds of most of the well known geniuses, rare are the ones that were the children of poor or destitute people. Anecdotally, I’ve met quite a few rural poor that were hyper intelligent. The types of things that matter to them aren’t really applicable to anyone else.
- bserge 5y ago
- JamesBarney 5y agoWe have a bunch of twin studies that say your biological parents have far more impact on your intellect than your adopted parents. We know there are upper middle class all over the world, and almost half the Manhattan project came from the same neighborhood and ethnicity. It would be amazing if we find out that one weird trick that increases your intellect by 2 standard deviations. But most likely it's just Ashekanazi have lots of smart genes.