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Of course he'd say that, having have a great many questionable decisions around Signal. Honestly I'm inclined to treat this as FUD until the same points are rai

Of course he'd say that, having have a great many questionable decisions around Signal. Honestly I'm inclined to treat this as FUD until the same points are raised by someone with a more impartial (or at the very least, fair) expertise.

johnisgood 5y ago
I have many comments about Telegram and how not-so-secure it is. Again, it does not have E2EE on desktop.[1] This secret chat is only for 1 on 1 conversations (IIRC), and it is not the default. I cannot comment on their E2EE because they may have changed it by now. Telegram is fancy, it is a great replacement for WhatsApp, but it cannot replace Element, Conversations/Gajim (XMPP), Briar, Ricochet, or Wire. Please avoid Telegram for actually "secure chats". I recommend checking out https://secushare.org/comparison https://secushare.org/comparison. I disagree with "Telegram can be among the least worse [for smartphones]" though. It is Briar. I have also used Briar on desktop, I wonder where that will go. [1] https://tsf.telegram.org/manuals/e2ee-simple#2-why-are-there-no-secret-chats-on-desktop-apps https://tsf.telegram.org/manuals/e2ee-simple#2-why-are-there...
3np 5y ago
You’re right to be wary of Signal. Here, Moxie is spot on, though. Everything he’s saying is based on public information. There’s no FUD and nothing new under the sun. Telegram is spyware wrapped in clever marketing and branding.
ViViDboarder 5y ago
The issue with Telegram has been brought up many times by many people. It defaults to insecure and is advertised as “encrypted messaging”. It’s a great messaging tool that offers one way to send e2ee chats, but the default is not and group chats aren’t. The comparison to Facebook messenger is apt.