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> Maybe it's different for people with AD(H)D than Asperger's, but I don't get it. There is nothing good with having a brain disability. So what you want peopl

by rkk3 5y ago

> Maybe it's different for people with AD(H)D than Asperger's, but I don't get it. There is nothing good with having a brain disability. So what you want people who aren't average to consider themselves inferior? I don't know why people wouldn't be able to find good things or positives from a disability. > People calling Asperger their "superpower" is laughable. Asperger's looks pretty over-represented in the richest people in the world. Dyslexia is also over-represented. Bill-Clinton, Obama, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos, Larry Ellison were all not raised by their biological fathers. Plenty of other examples. Adversity can be a super-power.

Fnoord 5y ago
Larry Ellison has an ASD diagnosis? TIL. The guy runs and breathes Oracle like a true psychopath. Then again, psychopaths and autistics can get along very well. As for your other point. You need to overcome or work around your weaknesses. Everyone has to do such, but for some it requires more (out of the box thinking) effort. For example, I have ASD and get disgusted by certain foods (smelling or seeing them). I explained this to my employer and colleagues when I got hired (they were aware I am autistic). What they do is they ask if it's OK if they buy/eat X (I don't wanna get into the specifics) and I ACK it (usually). They know if I look weird or go away what's going on.
- selimthegrim 5y ago
  I think the point was Ellison was adopted, bracketing that with dyslexia, etc as an adversity. No one would ever accuse Bill Clinton of having autism.
- rkk3 5y ago
  > Larry Ellison has an ASD diagnosis? TIL. Not to my knowledge, just was offering a counterpoint to the GP who seemed to think there are only negatives to adversity, like ASD. In that example "No benefits of [adversity]" Where the adversity of not being raised by your biological father might make you significantly more likely to be a billionaire or POTUS.
  - Fnoord 5y ago
    Thanks, I guess I missed some context. A billionaire, he is. A happy human being? A useful addition to society? I mean, all your examples have controversies but this one seems to stand out. Speaking of outliers: it lacks statistical analysis. I don't think anyone would argue a man not raised by their biological father cannot be successful (if we describe billionaire or POTUS as successful). Rather, what is the % of highly successful compared to men being raised by their biological father highly successful. We can at least apply statistical analysis on that, combined with a definition of successful (cause mine is guaranteed different because mine includes ethics and values it much higher than power or networth); we can't on autism because of undiagnosed people, while diagnosis also denotes some kind of impact or severity (incentive to become true positive). Ie. there are likely loads of people on the spectrum yet functioning (false negative). Then there's those who can't afford a diagnosis (false negative), and then there's the misdiagnosed (false positive/negative).
    - rkk3 5y ago
      > A billionaire, he is. A happy human being? A useful addition to society? haha. personally never really met any of them so can't really touch that : ) > I don't think anyone would argue a man not raised by their biological father cannot be successful Not only successful, but significantly more likely to be meteoriticy successful from the adversity. For other claims, sure the waters get muddy but the lack of ground truth is less relevant for the extreme success case. Aspies are wayyyy over represented in the top 10 richest people.

by rkk3 5y ago

Fnoord 5y ago

Larry Ellison has an ASD diagnosis? TIL. The guy runs and breathes Oracle like a true psychopath. Then again, psychopaths and autistics can get along very well. As for your other point. You need to overcome or work around your weaknesses. Everyone has to do such, but for some it requires more (out of the box thinking) effort. For example, I have ASD and get disgusted by certain foods (smelling or seeing them). I explained this to my employer and colleagues when I got hired (they were aware I am autistic). What they do is they ask if it's OK if they buy/eat X (I don't wanna get into the specifics) and I ACK it (usually). They know if I look weird or go away what's going on.

selimthegrim 5y ago
I think the point was Ellison was adopted, bracketing that with dyslexia, etc as an adversity. No one would ever accuse Bill Clinton of having autism.
rkk3 5y ago
> Larry Ellison has an ASD diagnosis? TIL. Not to my knowledge, just was offering a counterpoint to the GP who seemed to think there are only negatives to adversity, like ASD. In that example "No benefits of [adversity]" Where the adversity of not being raised by your biological father might make you significantly more likely to be a billionaire or POTUS.
- Fnoord 5y ago
  Thanks, I guess I missed some context. A billionaire, he is. A happy human being? A useful addition to society? I mean, all your examples have controversies but this one seems to stand out. Speaking of outliers: it lacks statistical analysis. I don't think anyone would argue a man not raised by their biological father cannot be successful (if we describe billionaire or POTUS as successful). Rather, what is the % of highly successful compared to men being raised by their biological father highly successful. We can at least apply statistical analysis on that, combined with a definition of successful (cause mine is guaranteed different because mine includes ethics and values it much higher than power or networth); we can't on autism because of undiagnosed people, while diagnosis also denotes some kind of impact or severity (incentive to become true positive). Ie. there are likely loads of people on the spectrum yet functioning (false negative). Then there's those who can't afford a diagnosis (false negative), and then there's the misdiagnosed (false positive/negative).
  - rkk3 5y ago
    > A billionaire, he is. A happy human being? A useful addition to society? haha. personally never really met any of them so can't really touch that : ) > I don't think anyone would argue a man not raised by their biological father cannot be successful Not only successful, but significantly more likely to be meteoriticy successful from the adversity. For other claims, sure the waters get muddy but the lack of ground truth is less relevant for the extreme success case. Aspies are wayyyy over represented in the top 10 richest people.