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My landlord replaced my gas stove with an induction stove (with convection oven), and it is without question the nicest oven I've ever used. Even the broiler is

My landlord replaced my gas stove with an induction stove (with convection oven), and it is without question the nicest oven I've ever used. Even the broiler is somehow terrific. Most of my neighbors are clinging to their old gas ovens out of nostalgic attitudes or skepticism. I've tried to convince them that they're missing out.

dml2135 5y ago
wow your landlord sounds awesome, do you live in nyc? I think I’m resigned to using gas until I buy a home (if that day ever comes).
- Eric_WVGG 5y ago
  I do live in NYC. "Awesome" isn't quite the term I'd use… he's highly motivated to get gas out of this building (one highly illegal piece of plastic ductwork from Czechoslovakia was found in our system — had there been a fire and this piece melted, BLAMMO). Personally, I am convinced by recent studies that indoor gas is just blanket bad for health, so I was quite happy to cooperate. https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2020/5/7/21247602/gas-stove-cooking-indoor-air-pollution-health-risks https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2020/5/7/21247602...
  - inglor_cz 5y ago
    "one highly illegal piece of plastic ductwork from Czechoslovakia" Just wow, that is the last context in which I expected to see the name of my long defunct country of birth.
  - atombender 5y ago
    NYC landlords seem to be eager to get rid of gas because of the maintenance costs. For one, they have to use licensed gas line plumbers to service the building, and there are all sorts of safety regulations that have to be followed, all of which adds to the cost. The city takes gas extremely seriously, as does ConEd, and the latter will shut down an installation that isn't considered safe. My apartment had a small gas leak on a gas furnace connection inside the apartment, and ConEd came and locked the gas meter. My landlord dragged his feet for more than a year because a plumber would cost him around $2,500 to inspect the equipment and do the necessary DOB paperwork. He actually chewed me out for reporting the leak to ConEd instead of going directly to him first (because then he could have used his unlicensed guys). Other people in the building said he was trying to all the tenants to go electric — in an old Brooklyn warehouse with no insulation or modern heating. The only heating alternative he could offer was little space heaters he got off Amazon, and he refused to educate himself about heat pumps.
nobody9999 5y ago
>My landlord replaced my gas stove with an induction stove (with convection oven), and it is without question the nicest oven I've ever used. Even the broiler is somehow terrific. After a gas leak during renovations in my building, rather than pay for inspections of the gas infrastructure, my landlord replaced my (and all the other tenants') gas stove with a used (not refurbished) electric stove that broke immediately and repeatedly until it was finally replaced with a new electric stove after five years -- after the managing agents were replaced. Even with the brand new electric (not induction) stove, it's still significantly inferior to the 25+ year-old gas stove. That's the other side of the coin for renters.
- Eric_WVGG 5y ago
  If he hadn’t promised an induction model, I would have fought the change like everyone else. We fortunately have a moderately powerful and highly organized tenants association.
- dpark 5y ago
  > Even with the brand new electric (not induction) stove, it's still significantly inferior to the 25+ year-old gas stove. Electric stoves vary a ton in quality. The flat top glass ones can be pretty great (and very easy to clean). The cheapest electric stoves are pretty terrible. I guess the same could be said for gas, as some people are happy moving to (non induction) electric. But if your gas stove was holding up for >25 years, it was probably not the cheapest model they could get at the time.
  - nobody9999 5y ago
    >I guess the same could be said for gas, as some people are happy moving to (non induction) electric. But if your gas stove was holding up for >25 years, it was probably not the cheapest model they could get at the time. That's definitely true. And the used resistive stove that replaced it was being sold on eBay for USD$250 around that same time. Which says that it likely was the cheapest model they could find. Even with the new resistive stove, which was, at least, new, things are better. But still doesn't provide the quality of cooking (and consequently, eating) experience that the gas stove did. I suppose some might recommend that I replace it with an induction stove, but that would violate the terms of my lease.

dml2135 5y ago

wow your landlord sounds awesome, do you live in nyc? I think I’m resigned to using gas until I buy a home (if that day ever comes).

Eric_WVGG 5y ago
I do live in NYC. "Awesome" isn't quite the term I'd use… he's highly motivated to get gas out of this building (one highly illegal piece of plastic ductwork from Czechoslovakia was found in our system — had there been a fire and this piece melted, BLAMMO). Personally, I am convinced by recent studies that indoor gas is just blanket bad for health, so I was quite happy to cooperate. https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2020/5/7/21247602/gas-stove-cooking-indoor-air-pollution-health-risks https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2020/5/7/21247602...
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  "one highly illegal piece of plastic ductwork from Czechoslovakia" Just wow, that is the last context in which I expected to see the name of my long defunct country of birth.
- atombender 5y ago
  NYC landlords seem to be eager to get rid of gas because of the maintenance costs. For one, they have to use licensed gas line plumbers to service the building, and there are all sorts of safety regulations that have to be followed, all of which adds to the cost. The city takes gas extremely seriously, as does ConEd, and the latter will shut down an installation that isn't considered safe. My apartment had a small gas leak on a gas furnace connection inside the apartment, and ConEd came and locked the gas meter. My landlord dragged his feet for more than a year because a plumber would cost him around $2,500 to inspect the equipment and do the necessary DOB paperwork. He actually chewed me out for reporting the leak to ConEd instead of going directly to him first (because then he could have used his unlicensed guys). Other people in the building said he was trying to all the tenants to go electric — in an old Brooklyn warehouse with no insulation or modern heating. The only heating alternative he could offer was little space heaters he got off Amazon, and he refused to educate himself about heat pumps.

nobody9999 5y ago

>My landlord replaced my gas stove with an induction stove (with convection oven), and it is without question the nicest oven I've ever used. Even the broiler is somehow terrific. After a gas leak during renovations in my building, rather than pay for inspections of the gas infrastructure, my landlord replaced my (and all the other tenants') gas stove with a used (not refurbished) electric stove that broke immediately and repeatedly until it was finally replaced with a new electric stove after five years -- after the managing agents were replaced. Even with the brand new electric (not induction) stove, it's still significantly inferior to the 25+ year-old gas stove. That's the other side of the coin for renters.

Eric_WVGG 5y ago
If he hadn’t promised an induction model, I would have fought the change like everyone else. We fortunately have a moderately powerful and highly organized tenants association.
dpark 5y ago
> Even with the brand new electric (not induction) stove, it's still significantly inferior to the 25+ year-old gas stove. Electric stoves vary a ton in quality. The flat top glass ones can be pretty great (and very easy to clean). The cheapest electric stoves are pretty terrible. I guess the same could be said for gas, as some people are happy moving to (non induction) electric. But if your gas stove was holding up for >25 years, it was probably not the cheapest model they could get at the time.
- nobody9999 5y ago
  >I guess the same could be said for gas, as some people are happy moving to (non induction) electric. But if your gas stove was holding up for >25 years, it was probably not the cheapest model they could get at the time. That's definitely true. And the used resistive stove that replaced it was being sold on eBay for USD$250 around that same time. Which says that it likely was the cheapest model they could find. Even with the new resistive stove, which was, at least, new, things are better. But still doesn't provide the quality of cooking (and consequently, eating) experience that the gas stove did. I suppose some might recommend that I replace it with an induction stove, but that would violate the terms of my lease.