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Hmm, I worry about the doses listed. 1.6g of potent caps will get you right fucked. If you haven't done them before and are planning on having a couple drinks

Hmm, I worry about the doses listed. 1.6g of potent caps will get you right fucked. If you haven't done them before and are planning on having a couple drinks and socializing etc I recommend no more than 0.5g (for at least 1.5hrs) then re-access from there.

stevehiehn 5y ago
Maybe a more useful contribution is to say that mushroom 'highs' are cumulative. I've been a bit of a casual nibbler for 25 yrs or so. You can always eat a little more but you can't uneat them. So that's all. The quantity/duration of consumption ratio is very significant for a good experience :)
Nbox9 5y ago
Different mushroom species have different quantities of active ingredients. Describing the dry weight of a mushroom is really only a secondary measurement of the active ingredients. Elsewhere on the website they compare 2.4g of mushrooms to about 100ug of LSD. So 1.7g of mushrooms would be equivalent of about 45ug of LSD, and the micro dose range of LSD is 5-25ug. Tripsafe is attempting to describe a light dose, which should include only minor visuals. They are likely using P. Cubensis to describe dosage, which is very common in North America, but only half the potency of the most potent psychedelic mushrooms. “Liberty cabs” or P. Semilanceata are more common in Europe, and are often more potent than P. Cubensis. There might also be a cultural difference on the expectations for a psychedelic experiences and the activities one should do during it. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Psilocybe_species https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Psilocybe_species
- criticaltinker 5y ago
  Good point about the quantity of active ingredients varying by species. It’s worth noting that GP may have been referring to the physical distribution of active ingredients within the mushroom body. The “cap” of a mushroom almost always contains significantly more active ingredients. Thus, 1 gram of stems may yield a significantly different dose than 1 gram of “caps”.
  - rt_hidden_dude 5y ago
    The quantity and relative percentage of psilocybin, psilocin, baeocystin, and other active compounds varies wildly even in a mushroom-to-mushroom comparison from the same grow. This is especially notable in multispore grows, rather than strains isolated on agar over successive generations. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7201054/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7201054/
- 01100011 5y ago
  Storage is also a big variable. Keeping them in an oxygen free environment seems to help. IIRC, the amount of psilocybin in a mushroom is sort of fixed at a certain stage of its growth, so picking them when they're larger can just diminish their strength by weight and mess up what you think is the dose. As with most drugs, I find batching them together, say by grinding them all up in the case of mushrooms, and then taking small doses to calibrate the batch strength, is the safest way to go. I usually recommend taking your mushrooms and blending them up in, say, OJ, then pouring them into ice cube trays and freezing them. They keep quite a long time that way and it's pretty convenient.
antjanus 5y ago
I've done 4-5g several times before, I guess it affects everyone differently?
- 01100011 5y ago
  It definitely does. 4-5g is our standard dose now. I used to think 1-2g was intense. A big variable is whether or not you're combining them with anything else. I find smoking pot sends things into overdrive and results in hallucinations which are difficult to separate from reality when doing 5g. By itself, 5g is a nice trip(although I can temporarily lose my language functions sometimes, which is kind of interesting). To add to this, my partner does 5g and it's more or less a fun and intoxicating experience with no visuals at all. 5g for me is intensely visual. YMMV.
hbosch 5y ago
Hm. When I first tried mushrooms, “splitting an eighth” was the common dosage which is slightly more than 1.6g.

stevehiehn 5y ago

Maybe a more useful contribution is to say that mushroom 'highs' are cumulative. I've been a bit of a casual nibbler for 25 yrs or so. You can always eat a little more but you can't uneat them. So that's all. The quantity/duration of consumption ratio is very significant for a good experience :)

Nbox9 5y ago

Different mushroom species have different quantities of active ingredients. Describing the dry weight of a mushroom is really only a secondary measurement of the active ingredients. Elsewhere on the website they compare 2.4g of mushrooms to about 100ug of LSD. So 1.7g of mushrooms would be equivalent of about 45ug of LSD, and the micro dose range of LSD is 5-25ug. Tripsafe is attempting to describe a light dose, which should include only minor visuals. They are likely using P. Cubensis to describe dosage, which is very common in North America, but only half the potency of the most potent psychedelic mushrooms. “Liberty cabs” or P. Semilanceata are more common in Europe, and are often more potent than P. Cubensis. There might also be a cultural difference on the expectations for a psychedelic experiences and the activities one should do during it. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Psilocybe_species https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Psilocybe_species

criticaltinker 5y ago
Good point about the quantity of active ingredients varying by species. It’s worth noting that GP may have been referring to the physical distribution of active ingredients within the mushroom body. The “cap” of a mushroom almost always contains significantly more active ingredients. Thus, 1 gram of stems may yield a significantly different dose than 1 gram of “caps”.
- rt_hidden_dude 5y ago
  The quantity and relative percentage of psilocybin, psilocin, baeocystin, and other active compounds varies wildly even in a mushroom-to-mushroom comparison from the same grow. This is especially notable in multispore grows, rather than strains isolated on agar over successive generations. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7201054/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7201054/
01100011 5y ago
Storage is also a big variable. Keeping them in an oxygen free environment seems to help. IIRC, the amount of psilocybin in a mushroom is sort of fixed at a certain stage of its growth, so picking them when they're larger can just diminish their strength by weight and mess up what you think is the dose. As with most drugs, I find batching them together, say by grinding them all up in the case of mushrooms, and then taking small doses to calibrate the batch strength, is the safest way to go. I usually recommend taking your mushrooms and blending them up in, say, OJ, then pouring them into ice cube trays and freezing them. They keep quite a long time that way and it's pretty convenient.

antjanus 5y ago

I've done 4-5g several times before, I guess it affects everyone differently?

01100011 5y ago
It definitely does. 4-5g is our standard dose now. I used to think 1-2g was intense. A big variable is whether or not you're combining them with anything else. I find smoking pot sends things into overdrive and results in hallucinations which are difficult to separate from reality when doing 5g. By itself, 5g is a nice trip(although I can temporarily lose my language functions sometimes, which is kind of interesting). To add to this, my partner does 5g and it's more or less a fun and intoxicating experience with no visuals at all. 5g for me is intensely visual. YMMV.

hbosch 5y ago

Hm. When I first tried mushrooms, “splitting an eighth” was the common dosage which is slightly more than 1.6g.