Here is are a few examples, pasted the comments in case it gets deleted. have all the great tactics of refuting reality, spelling or grammar problems, redirect

Here is are a few examples, pasted the comments in case it gets deleted. have all the great tactics of refuting reality, spelling or grammar problems, redirection, whataboutism, any critique of CCP is racist/sinophobia, and some have great trump-style reverse psychology for lack of a better term (if he says they do it, he's the one doing it lol). I simply do not believe that a significant % of readers on this niche, highly educated forum, actually hold these opinions or hold these beliefs of what they think is reality/facts. Perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps it's just trolling. If real, I have a hard time reconciling that my worldview could possibly exist in the same as theirs. It's just so hard to swallow if true. If it is true it just makes it feel more like water & oil, a future of neither can live whilst the other survives. --- A double wammy! first somehow has not heard of xinjiang situation, asks for source on Uyghur forced labor, provided one, then says but they don't provide a source! lol https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29684508 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29684508 > sending of its natives to work camps by the half million Never heard of this event. Mind to provide a link with more details? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29684595 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29684595 Thanks, this is what the major part of the report. > The report, authored by Adrian Zenz, an independent Tibet and Xinjiang researcher, says that 500,000 people, mostly subsistence farmers and herders, were trained in the first seven months of 2020 and authorities have set quotas for the mass transfer of those workers within Tibet and to other parts of China. One thing I hate about mainstream media reporting is that they never link to the source material. Just from the above description, I cannot see that these people are forced in anyway. And deriving such numbers from public Chinese government documents is not accurate either, as certain words can be easily misunderstood given the sinophobia sentiment nowadays. ---- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29682404 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29682404 Even the publications claiming genocide in Xinjiang have been backpedaling. India is the one that has been attacking neighbouring borders, especially since the fascists came to power. Taiwan’s air defence zone includes much of the mainland, almost an entire province. Fishing vessels aren’t state actors. It’s certainly a problem that they aren’t being regulated more strongly, although many other countries have this same problem. ---- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29682376 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29682376 Flagged before I can copy paste. Was a parroting of Xi's recent pronouncement of Chinese style 'democracy' being the future and better than actual democracy: ---- (i commented on this one saying the same as others, whataboutism deflecting from what we are talking about, currently downvoted). I just read that profile 's posts and all of their comments in this thread are trying to pivot. they bring up problems and things we should be discussing for sure. but the tactic is to avoid discussion of the original topic. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29684104 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29684104 > 1. it could be flooded with pro cpp activists, it's a known fact that China pays people to influence forums Weird how that's a "known fact" with China, but whenever it's brought up about the Western countries [0] it's either hand-waved away or declared a conspiracy theory. [0] http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-ope http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-ope...