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I also thought it was more (I remember reading about 30% in the early 2000's), so I was kinda surprised. I think you are right that miles traveled will be highe

I also thought it was more (I remember reading about 30% in the early 2000's), so I was kinda surprised. I think you are right that miles traveled will be higher, so from an emissions perspective the decrease in commuting is good news. From the perspective of cars being everywhere and making environments unpleasant, as long as people don't think twice about hoping in the car to go Starbucks twice a day, we've got a huge problem.

leephillips 5y ago
I grew up in NYC and don’t regard cities, like Atlanta, covered in highways, to be cities. I never understood why places like this were built or how people enjoy living there, but clearly some do.
- fennecfoxen 5y ago
  The major premise of such a city is generally that you own more space than you could ever get in New York.
- Turing_Machine 5y ago
  Different strokes. Other people don't understand why someone would pay $4,000/month to live in an NYC apartment that would maybe qualify as a large closet elsewhere.
  - leephillips 5y ago
    That they’re willing to pay that should tell you something!
    - Turing_Machine 5y ago
      As I said, different strokes. I'd soon go batshit crazy (to the extent I'm not already) living in that kind of cramped space surrounded by that kind of population density.
      - leephillips 5y ago
        Oh, I understand. Most of the people I know who grew up in less dense places feel the same way.
        pksebben 5y ago
        I grew up in Brooklyn, and I'm currently on team rural. I couldn't think straight with all those noises and distractions, and I was going broke trying to keep up with rent hikes.
  - ambrozk 5y ago
    Suburbs don't have to be structured around cars! You can have lots of trees, lots of grass, be removed from bustle, and still be able to get around by car. The problem is that zoning rules have essentially regulated these sorts of suburbs out of existence. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWsGBRdK2N0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWsGBRdK2N0

leephillips 5y ago

I grew up in NYC and don’t regard cities, like Atlanta, covered in highways, to be cities. I never understood why places like this were built or how people enjoy living there, but clearly some do.

fennecfoxen 5y ago
The major premise of such a city is generally that you own more space than you could ever get in New York.
Turing_Machine 5y ago
Different strokes. Other people don't understand why someone would pay $4,000/month to live in an NYC apartment that would maybe qualify as a large closet elsewhere.
- leephillips 5y ago
  That they’re willing to pay that should tell you something!
  - Turing_Machine 5y ago
    As I said, different strokes. I'd soon go batshit crazy (to the extent I'm not already) living in that kind of cramped space surrounded by that kind of population density.
    - leephillips 5y ago
      Oh, I understand. Most of the people I know who grew up in less dense places feel the same way.
      - pksebben 5y ago
        I grew up in Brooklyn, and I'm currently on team rural. I couldn't think straight with all those noises and distractions, and I was going broke trying to keep up with rent hikes.
- ambrozk 5y ago
  Suburbs don't have to be structured around cars! You can have lots of trees, lots of grass, be removed from bustle, and still be able to get around by car. The problem is that zoning rules have essentially regulated these sorts of suburbs out of existence. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWsGBRdK2N0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWsGBRdK2N0