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With this kind of comment you remind me of the quote from Betrand Russel from the article on the frontpage earlier today: [...] a great many men will cheerfull
by kristiandupont 5y ago
With this kind of comment you remind me of the quote from Betrand Russel from the article on the frontpage earlier today:
[...] a great many men will cheerfully face impoverishment if they can thereby secure complete ruin for their rivals.
- zpeti 5y agoIt also reminds me how many people were incapable of understanding, that some people are fine with being poorer if they aren't controlled by a central unelected bureaucracy far way. National sovereignty actually means something to many people, as does having locally elected representatives. Many many people seem fine giving up democracy for no roaming charges, no passport checks, and being a bit richer. It's a bit sad.
- kristiandupont 5y agoAt no point had the UK "given up democracy".
- MattPalmer1086 5y agoThe EU does have elected representatives though. It also has a load of unelected bureaucrats, as all government's do. Who elects bureaucrats? Of course if being governed by unelected people is the issue, possibly we should look a bit closer to home at the Monarchy and the House of Lords.
- AnimalMuppet 5y agoHow much does the Monarchy actually govern, though? Ceremonially, sure, but actual power? Not so much.
- MattPalmer1086 5y agoTrue, the monarchy doesn't govern as such. Still rankles with me to be a subject and not a citizen.
- sorokod 5y agoAlso known as "cut the nose to spite the face"