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What you need to know is that it will make you dumb and stupid, and you'll sit there giggling to yourself incapable of any coherent thought, like a drooling idi

What you need to know is that it will make you dumb and stupid, and you'll sit there giggling to yourself incapable of any coherent thought, like a drooling idiot. At least that's what it'll look like from the outside. From the inside, you'll feel like you've opened a door to a magical land of true understanding, like the veneer of convention has peeled off the world and you can finally see the underlying superstruture of reality. So not only do you turn into a drooling idiot, you turn into a delusional drooling idiot. And then it takes over your life because it takes days to really get down from those dizzying heights of sudden chemical revelation, only you don't realise you're still high so you still think you really made all those lofty realisations. Then you go and have some more because you 're still incapable of rational thought and who's going to stop you anyway? It can be years before something breaks you out of this vivious cycle of making yourself stupid and being too stupid to understand how stupid you have become as a consequence. So don't do it. Life's too short. Go read a book. Go learn a craft. Go get a hobby. Learn woodcutting. Learn to bake. Learn to cook. Have more sex. Maybe get a degree or two. But don't do shit that burns your brain because you only get one brain. And it is very easy to damage irreparably.

celticninja 5y ago
Reefer madness but for shrooms, this would make good copypasta elsewhere on the internet.
SOLAR_FIELDS 5y ago
Counterpoint: psychedelics helped me overcome a lifelong problem with social anxiety and helped me to overcome fear of dancing in public. Over a decade later I can still say that the changes they made have had a profound and long-lasting positive impact on my life.
- BurningFrog 5y ago
  How specifically did it help with your social anxiety?
  - meowkit 5y ago
    Not the same person as the parent comment. An LSD tripped helped with my social anxiety as a second order effect of helping me become more empathetic. Through a dozen different thought loops + the psychedelic driven introspection of my first trip, I became much more sensitive and appreciative of my fellow humans. I was able to more properly emulate what someone might be thinking/feeling, and that has continued to bear fruit for me personally and professionally. Additionally, I became more tolerant of others and their differences in all dimensions. The idea of homosexuality in the past had left me queasy and suspicious. In the days after my first LSD experience, that difference no longer gave me any negative feelings. Any more specific than that and we would be getting into neuro-chemistry. I am not well versed and you would have to do your own research. I do recall that LSD boosts some neurotransmitter/modulator sensitivity, and dis-inhibits the Default Mode Network - allowing for a wider range of introspective experiences which may explain my above experience. I like this articles [0] comparison to defragging a hard-drive. I often phrase psychedelics as a chemical way to observe your mind being stuck in some high dimensional local optima of state/opinion. Then you can choose to pull yourself out of those optima and reform your deeply held beliefs. Another related term of interest might be ego-death/ego-loss. https://psychedelicstoday.com/2020/02/04/psychedelics-and-the-default-mode-network/ https://psychedelicstoday.com/2020/02/04/psychedelics-and-th...
aqme28 5y ago
> Life's too short. Life's too short not to at least try something new and unique and harmless, no? It only costs you an afternoon.
inDigiNeous 5y ago
This comment is just plain wrong. It has been even studied and proven scientifically that for example psilocin, one of the main components of the psilocybe family of mushrooms promotes neuroplasticity and neuritogenesis (Neuritogenesis is a key process required during development of the mammalian brain). [1] So, the completely reverse of what you said is true, mushrooms can actually promote repairing the brain and strengthen new, more healthy connections within it. * [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6082376/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6082376/
- mistermann 5y ago
  > This comment is just plain wrong. Not everywhere though. "Is" is a very tricky word.
mattcwilson 5y ago
Is there anything about the studies on safety linked in the article that you would specifically refute? I think you are right that particular substances have immediate, serious, irreversible harm to your brain. Psilocybin is not one of those substances.
sib301 5y ago
This gave me a good laugh

celticninja 5y ago

Reefer madness but for shrooms, this would make good copypasta elsewhere on the internet.

SOLAR_FIELDS 5y ago

Counterpoint: psychedelics helped me overcome a lifelong problem with social anxiety and helped me to overcome fear of dancing in public. Over a decade later I can still say that the changes they made have had a profound and long-lasting positive impact on my life.

BurningFrog 5y ago
How specifically did it help with your social anxiety?
- meowkit 5y ago
  Not the same person as the parent comment. An LSD tripped helped with my social anxiety as a second order effect of helping me become more empathetic. Through a dozen different thought loops + the psychedelic driven introspection of my first trip, I became much more sensitive and appreciative of my fellow humans. I was able to more properly emulate what someone might be thinking/feeling, and that has continued to bear fruit for me personally and professionally. Additionally, I became more tolerant of others and their differences in all dimensions. The idea of homosexuality in the past had left me queasy and suspicious. In the days after my first LSD experience, that difference no longer gave me any negative feelings. Any more specific than that and we would be getting into neuro-chemistry. I am not well versed and you would have to do your own research. I do recall that LSD boosts some neurotransmitter/modulator sensitivity, and dis-inhibits the Default Mode Network - allowing for a wider range of introspective experiences which may explain my above experience. I like this articles [0] comparison to defragging a hard-drive. I often phrase psychedelics as a chemical way to observe your mind being stuck in some high dimensional local optima of state/opinion. Then you can choose to pull yourself out of those optima and reform your deeply held beliefs. Another related term of interest might be ego-death/ego-loss. https://psychedelicstoday.com/2020/02/04/psychedelics-and-the-default-mode-network/ https://psychedelicstoday.com/2020/02/04/psychedelics-and-th...

aqme28 5y ago

> Life's too short. Life's too short not to at least try something new and unique and harmless, no? It only costs you an afternoon.

inDigiNeous 5y ago

This comment is just plain wrong. It has been even studied and proven scientifically that for example psilocin, one of the main components of the psilocybe family of mushrooms promotes neuroplasticity and neuritogenesis (Neuritogenesis is a key process required during development of the mammalian brain). [1] So, the completely reverse of what you said is true, mushrooms can actually promote repairing the brain and strengthen new, more healthy connections within it. * [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6082376/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6082376/

mistermann 5y ago
> This comment is just plain wrong. Not everywhere though. "Is" is a very tricky word.

mattcwilson 5y ago

Is there anything about the studies on safety linked in the article that you would specifically refute? I think you are right that particular substances have immediate, serious, irreversible harm to your brain. Psilocybin is not one of those substances.

sib301 5y ago

This gave me a good laugh