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I did 2g of dried shrooms about a week ago, having almost no prior experience. It was fun - I was seeing funny things, my friends looked funny, I laughed a lot

I did 2g of dried shrooms about a week ago, having almost no prior experience. It was fun - I was seeing funny things, my friends looked funny, I laughed a lot, was a lot more talkative and social. My only issue was a tension headache which started about when the first effects came on and was even worse the day after, lashing until about 24 hours after the mushrooms were taken. My friends did not get the headache. Otherwise, while I found the experience fun, and I'd do it again if it wasn't for the headache, I really can't fathom how people describe it as one of the most profound experiences of their lives.

arrakis2021 5y ago
You fell just short of the “profound experience line” You need at least 3.5G to have that. While that may seem intimidating it’s not that much more than 2G, but enough to make your inner consciousness turn up to 11
- dave_sullivan 5y ago
  Agreed. Up the dose. Dunno about the headache, never had that happen.
- teaearlgraycold 5y ago
  Depends. I had a mildly profound experience with 2.5g. I was alone in nature with my thoughts for 2 hours and came away with some nice revelations.
crawfordcomeaux 5y ago
I ate 8g of dried shrooms a few days ago. Once things really got going, I spent the time mostly in the dark at home focusing on whatever came to me. The intentions I set were for ego death of some kind. Much of it was spent grieving childhood trauma and the state of the world, most of which was done while singing, snorting, making other mouth noises, laughing, crying, or some combination of those. Yesterday, I realized I have preverbal trauma and most people probably do, too. Sharing this with the person I'm partnering with, who went on a mushroom journey a few weeks ago to address their own preverbal trauma, seemed to open the door for them to soften toward me. We've been going through rough times, as she slipped into a PTSD episode upon getting pregnant, it's still going on, and how she acts when triggering into her trauma matches patterns of my own trauma, so we've had a difficult time over the past 3.5 years. I haven't been very compassionate/empathetic in how I receive her and often feel confused about what to do or say. Today, that wasn't the case. We both received each other graciously (and let it go quickly when we didn't), freely offered and accepted hugs, and created a lovely little Christmas scene for the child, as well as started collaboratively designing content for santaisdeadlonglivesanta.net. These are profound and immediate changes in my life. I look forward to what mushrooms have to further teach me. Oh, I also had the realization that ego death doesn't need to be this cataclysmic, big, scary, break from reality thing done with eyes literally closed and that if I already carry a cosmic identity, dissolving into the cosmos provides insight that can come from reflecting on being the cosmos. If you've read this far, do yourself a favor, look up CPTSD and preverbal trauma, and check to see if there's something you went through when little that's still alive and getting in your way.
- fidesomnes 5y ago
- kcindric 5y ago
  What is your experience with handling trips with CPTSD? I'm on the verge of exploring mushrooms and have pretty serious CPTSD symptoms and burdens. I'm doing therapy and a lot of self-therapy like somatic experiencing, dancing, IFS and just doing whatever my body wants to do. I hope that mushrooms would be a great addition to that 'do whatever I want' therapy by intensifying my child brain, but also I'm fearful that things could get bad in the moment or worse in the long run.
  - crawfordcomeaux 5y ago
    My first mushroom experience was 20 years ago. All I remember is I was in a fog so thick I had to move it with my hands in order to see what was going on around me. My interpretation right now is this was an indicator of lots of cognitive distortions at play in my life and a deep emotional disconnect from the body. The second one was at a party and I don't remember much of any of it. I have no idea what I took or how much. All of my other trips have been after adopting a stance of radical acceptance and abandoning most of my preferences. Allowing myself to do what I want I think is really key to living fully and helps dramatically with tripping. If you're nervous about your first time, maybe find a trip sitter. There are also integration coaches out there who can help you prepare and followup with practices for integrating what you learn. Ultimately, if you setup your environment to have all your needs accounted for (which may include putting "flight instructions" nearby and easily visible, taking a big dose and laying down with an eye mask on in a quiet environment can take you very far. You can always open your eyes and remind yourself you're safe, this is the mushrooms showing you what you need, and it shall pass. Don't Gandalf the Balrog, look at it and ask "What are you doing in my head and what do you have to teach me?" I know people who have had very scary trips and came out having learned very little and changed very little. They also practice deep denials of reality, so I'd check myself for cognitive distortions and work them out or at least get into the habit of pausing and questioning an experience before flying solo. Are you making music as part of your therapy? I ask because I've found making music allows me to see how I'm applying my brain to things. I practice playing what Sun Ra calls "pure jazz," music without preconceived notion or simply just being. There's no wrong note or wrong time to play it. However you want to be programming your brain to work, if you approach making music from that mindset, it's a safe environment to practice it. I hope this helps you in your healing journey <3
lambdaba 5y ago
> tension headache take magnesium, recommend especially if you're going to take in any psychedelic
suikadayo 5y ago
Everyone is suggesting taking more but you can have a decently profound experience with just 2g. Try it with an eye mask and just music next time, and no other distractions, maybe with a trip sitter nearby.
- crawfordcomeaux 5y ago
  I agree with this. Even the music may serve as too much of a distraction, as well.
  - dwmbt 5y ago
    when i first started experimenting with psychedelics on my own, i would set up stations in my room. i had a sketchpad on my desk and an assortment of pens and pencils, next to that i had a journal where i would routinely jot down my fleeting thoughts/feelings. across the room, i had my window open, so that i could look at the stars outside and feel like i wasn't trapped in a shoebox. on my bed, i had my phone and a nice pair of headphones. i also had my computer here, so that i could watch tv. sometimes, when my dog would let me, i would also curl up next to him on the floor. over time, i tried to introduce new stations, like programming and reading, but they never really stuck. all of these activities kept me busy, but none of them were quite as fulfilling as just closing my eyes and letting my mind do the work (even with music as a guide). eventually, i just started doing the opposite -> the stations remained, but only as tools to help me beat my anxiety and/or boredom. if i ever feel that i am approaching a period of overwhelming feelings, i distract myself with the activities i mentioned.
benevol 5y ago
> I really can't fathom how people describe it as one of the most profound experiences of their lives. For this to be possible, you need to be alone (= undistracted) and (ideally) be surrounded by beautiful and calm nature, in a completely secure setting. Then, your inner state must be ready for this. Also, if your current level of consciousness is not ready for it, it won't happen at this point in time.
inDigiNeous 5y ago
Each and every psychedelic experience can be totally different, not directly even related to the amount you take. Set and setting, and your mindset and preparation, the intention that you take while you do it matter a lot. Eating 2g of dried mushrooms can be a life changing experience, or just a fun evening wondering on about the world. It can even not work at all, or give you just a slight feeling of being in an altered state. Personally, after experiencing mushrooms and other psychedelics over a 10 year period of time, these days even a small under 1g dose can bring a very strong experience. Depends a lot also what you have eaten before the experience, how you have prepared for it etc etc .. maybe the headache is something that the mushrooms just brought to the surface in that moment, might not happen on your second time.
01100011 5y ago
It's not a tension headache. Serotonin affects bloodflow in your brain, which is why many migraine drugs target its receptors. The headache is a known effect, although I never in all of my drug fueled years on earth heard of it until I started experiencing it myself after 5g+ shroom trips. Usually it hits us the day after and no amount of water, neti pots, magnesium, etc will help. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3345296/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3345296/

arrakis2021 5y ago

You fell just short of the “profound experience line” You need at least 3.5G to have that. While that may seem intimidating it’s not that much more than 2G, but enough to make your inner consciousness turn up to 11

dave_sullivan 5y ago
Agreed. Up the dose. Dunno about the headache, never had that happen.
teaearlgraycold 5y ago
Depends. I had a mildly profound experience with 2.5g. I was alone in nature with my thoughts for 2 hours and came away with some nice revelations.

crawfordcomeaux 5y ago

I ate 8g of dried shrooms a few days ago. Once things really got going, I spent the time mostly in the dark at home focusing on whatever came to me. The intentions I set were for ego death of some kind. Much of it was spent grieving childhood trauma and the state of the world, most of which was done while singing, snorting, making other mouth noises, laughing, crying, or some combination of those. Yesterday, I realized I have preverbal trauma and most people probably do, too. Sharing this with the person I'm partnering with, who went on a mushroom journey a few weeks ago to address their own preverbal trauma, seemed to open the door for them to soften toward me. We've been going through rough times, as she slipped into a PTSD episode upon getting pregnant, it's still going on, and how she acts when triggering into her trauma matches patterns of my own trauma, so we've had a difficult time over the past 3.5 years. I haven't been very compassionate/empathetic in how I receive her and often feel confused about what to do or say. Today, that wasn't the case. We both received each other graciously (and let it go quickly when we didn't), freely offered and accepted hugs, and created a lovely little Christmas scene for the child, as well as started collaboratively designing content for santaisdeadlonglivesanta.net. These are profound and immediate changes in my life. I look forward to what mushrooms have to further teach me. Oh, I also had the realization that ego death doesn't need to be this cataclysmic, big, scary, break from reality thing done with eyes literally closed and that if I already carry a cosmic identity, dissolving into the cosmos provides insight that can come from reflecting on being the cosmos. If you've read this far, do yourself a favor, look up CPTSD and preverbal trauma, and check to see if there's something you went through when little that's still alive and getting in your way.

fidesomnes 5y ago
kcindric 5y ago
What is your experience with handling trips with CPTSD? I'm on the verge of exploring mushrooms and have pretty serious CPTSD symptoms and burdens. I'm doing therapy and a lot of self-therapy like somatic experiencing, dancing, IFS and just doing whatever my body wants to do. I hope that mushrooms would be a great addition to that 'do whatever I want' therapy by intensifying my child brain, but also I'm fearful that things could get bad in the moment or worse in the long run.
- crawfordcomeaux 5y ago
  My first mushroom experience was 20 years ago. All I remember is I was in a fog so thick I had to move it with my hands in order to see what was going on around me. My interpretation right now is this was an indicator of lots of cognitive distortions at play in my life and a deep emotional disconnect from the body. The second one was at a party and I don't remember much of any of it. I have no idea what I took or how much. All of my other trips have been after adopting a stance of radical acceptance and abandoning most of my preferences. Allowing myself to do what I want I think is really key to living fully and helps dramatically with tripping. If you're nervous about your first time, maybe find a trip sitter. There are also integration coaches out there who can help you prepare and followup with practices for integrating what you learn. Ultimately, if you setup your environment to have all your needs accounted for (which may include putting "flight instructions" nearby and easily visible, taking a big dose and laying down with an eye mask on in a quiet environment can take you very far. You can always open your eyes and remind yourself you're safe, this is the mushrooms showing you what you need, and it shall pass. Don't Gandalf the Balrog, look at it and ask "What are you doing in my head and what do you have to teach me?" I know people who have had very scary trips and came out having learned very little and changed very little. They also practice deep denials of reality, so I'd check myself for cognitive distortions and work them out or at least get into the habit of pausing and questioning an experience before flying solo. Are you making music as part of your therapy? I ask because I've found making music allows me to see how I'm applying my brain to things. I practice playing what Sun Ra calls "pure jazz," music without preconceived notion or simply just being. There's no wrong note or wrong time to play it. However you want to be programming your brain to work, if you approach making music from that mindset, it's a safe environment to practice it. I hope this helps you in your healing journey <3

lambdaba 5y ago

> tension headache take magnesium, recommend especially if you're going to take in any psychedelic

suikadayo 5y ago

Everyone is suggesting taking more but you can have a decently profound experience with just 2g. Try it with an eye mask and just music next time, and no other distractions, maybe with a trip sitter nearby.

crawfordcomeaux 5y ago
I agree with this. Even the music may serve as too much of a distraction, as well.
- dwmbt 5y ago
  when i first started experimenting with psychedelics on my own, i would set up stations in my room. i had a sketchpad on my desk and an assortment of pens and pencils, next to that i had a journal where i would routinely jot down my fleeting thoughts/feelings. across the room, i had my window open, so that i could look at the stars outside and feel like i wasn't trapped in a shoebox. on my bed, i had my phone and a nice pair of headphones. i also had my computer here, so that i could watch tv. sometimes, when my dog would let me, i would also curl up next to him on the floor. over time, i tried to introduce new stations, like programming and reading, but they never really stuck. all of these activities kept me busy, but none of them were quite as fulfilling as just closing my eyes and letting my mind do the work (even with music as a guide). eventually, i just started doing the opposite -> the stations remained, but only as tools to help me beat my anxiety and/or boredom. if i ever feel that i am approaching a period of overwhelming feelings, i distract myself with the activities i mentioned.

benevol 5y ago

> I really can't fathom how people describe it as one of the most profound experiences of their lives. For this to be possible, you need to be alone (= undistracted) and (ideally) be surrounded by beautiful and calm nature, in a completely secure setting. Then, your inner state must be ready for this. Also, if your current level of consciousness is not ready for it, it won't happen at this point in time.

inDigiNeous 5y ago

Each and every psychedelic experience can be totally different, not directly even related to the amount you take. Set and setting, and your mindset and preparation, the intention that you take while you do it matter a lot. Eating 2g of dried mushrooms can be a life changing experience, or just a fun evening wondering on about the world. It can even not work at all, or give you just a slight feeling of being in an altered state. Personally, after experiencing mushrooms and other psychedelics over a 10 year period of time, these days even a small under 1g dose can bring a very strong experience. Depends a lot also what you have eaten before the experience, how you have prepared for it etc etc .. maybe the headache is something that the mushrooms just brought to the surface in that moment, might not happen on your second time.

01100011 5y ago

It's not a tension headache. Serotonin affects bloodflow in your brain, which is why many migraine drugs target its receptors. The headache is a known effect, although I never in all of my drug fueled years on earth heard of it until I started experiencing it myself after 5g+ shroom trips. Usually it hits us the day after and no amount of water, neti pots, magnesium, etc will help. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3345296/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3345296/