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A 'mistake' they are actually doing since a long time now. Here is the cups equivalent with a license change from apache to mit for the CUPS system. https://gi

by ognarb 5y ago

A 'mistake' they are actually doing since a long time now. Here is the cups equivalent with a license change from apache to mit for the CUPS system. https://github.com/microsoft/cups/commit/ad69bcc78bdea3fea3f09fe56674daea821bb407 https://github.com/microsoft/cups/commit/ad69bcc78bdea3fea3f...

phendrenad2 5y ago
Why the scare quotes around mistake? Are you implying that it's intentional? Or negligence? It seems like nobody noticed the CUPS license change until now, so it's irrelevant, right?
- Strom 5y ago
  How is it not intentional? To me it seems very clear that someone designed this bot to specifically alter the LICENSE file so that it matches some sort of predefind Microsoft file. Edit: To give a bit more nuance, I would guess that the actual bot changing the LICENSE files is not a mistake, but working as intended. What could, however, be a mistake is thinking that licenses can be legally overwritten. It wouldn't be a "rogue engineer" kind of mistake. Certainly several people at Microsoft have signed off on this.
  - colejohnson66 5y ago
    Because a bot like this could never used on internal libraries that are about to be open sourced?
    - Strom 5y ago
      I'm sure it could be used, however that would probably be a similar problem. Microsoft has internal libraries with all sorts of licenses. Replacing the actual licenses with a template wouldn't be the correct move there either.
    - formerly_proven 5y ago
      https://github.com/microsoft/cups/commit/8100595a3a3a6d5c7d0ced7598807bad5c6d4d6c https://github.com/microsoft/cups/commit/8100595a3a3a6d5c7d0... That's not a bot.
- dapids 5y ago
  Because it was done intentionally by an employed individual in this case rather than a bot. You cannot in good conscious as an individual make this "mistake" without knowing or acting maliciously unless you are incompetent to begin with. Seems like a growing trend at MS. And I'll remind you that Apple actually uses CUPS for their print backend and funds it directly, they retain the original license and support the project, meanwhile MS takes it, doesn't contribute and acts like it's their own, sick. https://github.com/microsoft/cups/commit/8100595a3a3a6d5c7d0ced7598807bad5c6d4d6c https://github.com/microsoft/cups/commit/8100595a3a3a6d5c7d0...

by ognarb 5y ago

phendrenad2 5y ago

Why the scare quotes around mistake? Are you implying that it's intentional? Or negligence? It seems like nobody noticed the CUPS license change until now, so it's irrelevant, right?

Strom 5y ago
How is it not intentional? To me it seems very clear that someone designed this bot to specifically alter the LICENSE file so that it matches some sort of predefind Microsoft file. Edit: To give a bit more nuance, I would guess that the actual bot changing the LICENSE files is not a mistake, but working as intended. What could, however, be a mistake is thinking that licenses can be legally overwritten. It wouldn't be a "rogue engineer" kind of mistake. Certainly several people at Microsoft have signed off on this.
- colejohnson66 5y ago
  Because a bot like this could never used on internal libraries that are about to be open sourced?
  - Strom 5y ago
    I'm sure it could be used, however that would probably be a similar problem. Microsoft has internal libraries with all sorts of licenses. Replacing the actual licenses with a template wouldn't be the correct move there either.
  - formerly_proven 5y ago
    https://github.com/microsoft/cups/commit/8100595a3a3a6d5c7d0ced7598807bad5c6d4d6c https://github.com/microsoft/cups/commit/8100595a3a3a6d5c7d0... That's not a bot.
dapids 5y ago
Because it was done intentionally by an employed individual in this case rather than a bot. You cannot in good conscious as an individual make this "mistake" without knowing or acting maliciously unless you are incompetent to begin with. Seems like a growing trend at MS. And I'll remind you that Apple actually uses CUPS for their print backend and funds it directly, they retain the original license and support the project, meanwhile MS takes it, doesn't contribute and acts like it's their own, sick. https://github.com/microsoft/cups/commit/8100595a3a3a6d5c7d0ced7598807bad5c6d4d6c https://github.com/microsoft/cups/commit/8100595a3a3a6d5c7d0...