5 ms·

Is that so? Have you noticed which country is the source of this war against evil communist dictatorship? The US. Now, let's take a step back and consider some

Is that so? Have you noticed which country is the source of this war against evil communist dictatorship? The US. Now, let's take a step back and consider some facts 1. China has not attacked any country in a long time. 2. The champions of free speech and democracy have destroyed millions just this last 20 years. Seems to me the villains are the ones screaming the loudest against their economic rival. You really think any of this has anything to do with human rights? You only hear the arguments of one side. At least acknowledge this simple fact, then go from there

stelonix 5y ago
What's obvious for us who have been oppressed by the empire, for those who live there it might be impossible to see. They're the ones under propaganda 24/7, after all. Occam's razor works really well for many users of this site, but as soon as the subject is a rival superpower, everything is thrown out the window and it's the usual McCarthyism.
- freeflight 5y ago
- chunghuaming 5y ago
  Please tell me where you are from that you're being oppressed by US right now, not 10 years ago or 100 years ago. Also, US isn't the only democracy in the world (it's actually a representative republic, but anyways).
  - freeflight 5y ago
  - dang 5y ago
    We've banned this account for using HN primarily for nationalistic battle. That's not allowed here [1]. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. Also, single-purpose accounts are not allowed here generally, because they aren't compatible with the value of curiosity that's supposed to animate this place (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. [1] More explanation here if anyone wants it: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... also https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20bimodal%20accounts&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
sgjohnson 5y ago
1. Flat out false, they are actively engaging in border skirmishes with India, and they are actively antagonizing every single neighbouring country (with virtually all of whom they have border disputes), not to mention Taiwan. 2. Millions of what? And what’s the relevance of this?
retrac 5y ago
> have you noticed which country is the source of this war against evil communist dictatorship? IMO, you would be mistaken if you view the positions of American allies (Germany, Canada, Australia, Japan, UK, etc.) here as client states simply falling in line with their master's opinion. Though the USA is certainly influential on them. Whether justified or not, the recent hardening of anti-Chinese-government positions from these countries seem to be largely independent actions, based on their own evaluations of their geopolitical security situation, which come to similar conclusions as the USA. In the case of Australia and Japan and Korea in particular, the current hard line taken actually predates the mid-2010s shift in America.
jdefr89 5y ago
China does do all of those things, it just denies their involvement. How many Uyghur's are in captivity right now?
- ashwagary 5y ago
  >How many Uyghur's are in captivity right now? How many people are being tortured at CIA/US military blacksites right now? Nobody can answer either of these questions but both governments claim to be dealing with terrorism.
_-david-_ 5y ago
>China has not attacked any country in a long time. What is a long time to you? A month?

stelonix 5y ago

What's obvious for us who have been oppressed by the empire, for those who live there it might be impossible to see. They're the ones under propaganda 24/7, after all. Occam's razor works really well for many users of this site, but as soon as the subject is a rival superpower, everything is thrown out the window and it's the usual McCarthyism.

freeflight 5y ago
chunghuaming 5y ago
Please tell me where you are from that you're being oppressed by US right now, not 10 years ago or 100 years ago. Also, US isn't the only democracy in the world (it's actually a representative republic, but anyways).
- freeflight 5y ago
- dang 5y ago
  We've banned this account for using HN primarily for nationalistic battle. That's not allowed here [1]. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. Also, single-purpose accounts are not allowed here generally, because they aren't compatible with the value of curiosity that's supposed to animate this place (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. [1] More explanation here if anyone wants it: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... also https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20bimodal%20accounts&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

sgjohnson 5y ago

1. Flat out false, they are actively engaging in border skirmishes with India, and they are actively antagonizing every single neighbouring country (with virtually all of whom they have border disputes), not to mention Taiwan. 2. Millions of what? And what’s the relevance of this?

retrac 5y ago

> have you noticed which country is the source of this war against evil communist dictatorship? IMO, you would be mistaken if you view the positions of American allies (Germany, Canada, Australia, Japan, UK, etc.) here as client states simply falling in line with their master's opinion. Though the USA is certainly influential on them. Whether justified or not, the recent hardening of anti-Chinese-government positions from these countries seem to be largely independent actions, based on their own evaluations of their geopolitical security situation, which come to similar conclusions as the USA. In the case of Australia and Japan and Korea in particular, the current hard line taken actually predates the mid-2010s shift in America.

jdefr89 5y ago

China does do all of those things, it just denies their involvement. How many Uyghur's are in captivity right now?

ashwagary 5y ago
>How many Uyghur's are in captivity right now? How many people are being tortured at CIA/US military blacksites right now? Nobody can answer either of these questions but both governments claim to be dealing with terrorism.

_-david-_ 5y ago

>China has not attacked any country in a long time. What is a long time to you? A month?