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Standard practice anywhere you have... people, most are perfectly reasonable but many are deeply indoctrinated nationalists. Just a cursory reading of the comm

Standard practice anywhere you have... people, most are perfectly reasonable but many are deeply indoctrinated nationalists. Just a cursory reading of the comments in any topic about China will show you that their western counterparts are alive and kicking here

rosndo 5y ago
Bullshit. Shit like this is almost exclusively a Chinese activity https://www.propublica.org/article/purdue-president-condemns-tactics-used-to-censor-chinese-students-on-u-s-campuses https://www.propublica.org/article/purdue-president-condemns... You can find countless examples of groups of Chinese people engaging in downright horrible behavior like this, good luck finding many western counterparts. Where are the western nationalists SWATting families of people who dare to say critical things of their governments? Nobody will send the secret police to harass my family if I dare to criticize my government, but if I was Chinese they certainly would. I’m sure it would be possible to indoctrinate westerners to behave in a similar way, but the fact remains that currently it’s the Chinese who are uniquely indoctrinated.
- Ostrogodsky 5y ago
  I dont know if you are being naive or a troll. In any case, for the benefit of other people reading this thread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO https://theintercept.com/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-media-destruction-gary-webb/ https://theintercept.com/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-m... https://theintercept.com/2019/10/22/terrorism-fbi-political-dissent/ https://theintercept.com/2019/10/22/terrorism-fbi-political-... https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2016/11/5/13533838/history-fbi-meddling-politics-comey https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2016/11/5/13533838/history-...
  - foepys 5y ago
    This is bad. But the fact that you can post links to articles written by journalists here is proof enough that this was not okay and unacceptable. Do you have articles about similar things happening in China by Chinese media?
    - Ostrogodsky 5y ago
      The first article is from Wikipedia so you are being highly disingenuous. The second thing is that it is pretty much okay and acceptable since this has never stopped. You seem to believe that if the US does something wrong and it is reported then everything is fine in the world, well, no. This guy went to jail for revealing that the drone attacks were ineffective and amounted to criminal actions: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/27/former-intelligence-analyst-sentenced-prison-drone-program-leak https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/27/former-intelli... I can read about it, that does not make it even 0.0001% better. Since you asked: https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3160705/year-chinas-tech-crackdown-sky-no-longer-limit-chinas-big-tech https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3160705/year-chin... The problem with most westerners is that they just simply dont understand China. Just read this, relax, it is from Harvard, not from Xi's wumao army https://hbr.org/2021/05/what-the-west-gets-wrong-about-china https://hbr.org/2021/05/what-the-west-gets-wrong-about-china
  - rosndo 5y ago
    The fact that you had to link to COINTELPRO is pretty revealing :) Grasping at straws, no?
    - Ostrogodsky 5y ago
      Tell that to all the people that got their lives ruined. How is the pay rate going on here?: https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/441480-inside-the-secret-world-of-the-cias-social-media-team https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/441480-ins... I only get paid 50 cents by the yellow menace and I am not a rapper.

rosndo 5y ago

Bullshit. Shit like this is almost exclusively a Chinese activity https://www.propublica.org/article/purdue-president-condemns-tactics-used-to-censor-chinese-students-on-u-s-campuses https://www.propublica.org/article/purdue-president-condemns... You can find countless examples of groups of Chinese people engaging in downright horrible behavior like this, good luck finding many western counterparts. Where are the western nationalists SWATting families of people who dare to say critical things of their governments? Nobody will send the secret police to harass my family if I dare to criticize my government, but if I was Chinese they certainly would. I’m sure it would be possible to indoctrinate westerners to behave in a similar way, but the fact remains that currently it’s the Chinese who are uniquely indoctrinated.

Ostrogodsky 5y ago
I dont know if you are being naive or a troll. In any case, for the benefit of other people reading this thread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO https://theintercept.com/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-media-destruction-gary-webb/ https://theintercept.com/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-m... https://theintercept.com/2019/10/22/terrorism-fbi-political-dissent/ https://theintercept.com/2019/10/22/terrorism-fbi-political-... https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2016/11/5/13533838/history-fbi-meddling-politics-comey https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2016/11/5/13533838/history-...
- foepys 5y ago
  This is bad. But the fact that you can post links to articles written by journalists here is proof enough that this was not okay and unacceptable. Do you have articles about similar things happening in China by Chinese media?
  - Ostrogodsky 5y ago
    The first article is from Wikipedia so you are being highly disingenuous. The second thing is that it is pretty much okay and acceptable since this has never stopped. You seem to believe that if the US does something wrong and it is reported then everything is fine in the world, well, no. This guy went to jail for revealing that the drone attacks were ineffective and amounted to criminal actions: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/27/former-intelligence-analyst-sentenced-prison-drone-program-leak https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/27/former-intelli... I can read about it, that does not make it even 0.0001% better. Since you asked: https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3160705/year-chinas-tech-crackdown-sky-no-longer-limit-chinas-big-tech https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3160705/year-chin... The problem with most westerners is that they just simply dont understand China. Just read this, relax, it is from Harvard, not from Xi's wumao army https://hbr.org/2021/05/what-the-west-gets-wrong-about-china https://hbr.org/2021/05/what-the-west-gets-wrong-about-china
- rosndo 5y ago
  The fact that you had to link to COINTELPRO is pretty revealing :) Grasping at straws, no?
  - Ostrogodsky 5y ago
    Tell that to all the people that got their lives ruined. How is the pay rate going on here?: https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/441480-inside-the-secret-world-of-the-cias-social-media-team https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/441480-ins... I only get paid 50 cents by the yellow menace and I am not a rapper.