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The people listed in the study are all female and have also been involved in the application-oriented https://prototypefund.de https://prototypefund.de . The l

by cappr 5y ago

The people listed in the study are all female and have also been involved in the application-oriented https://prototypefund.de https://prototypefund.de . The language used and the fact that the same persons are involved in two government funded funds strongly suggests that this is a diversity initiative in disguise. The more I see of open source foundations and funds, the more I think that in many cases the prime beneficiaries are the organizers (though I don't have proof in this case and will not claim it).

rhamzeh 5y ago
> The people listed in the study are all female > strongly suggests that this is a diversity initiative in disguise It would be great if we can use this logic backwards. For any team or initiative we see that is all male, we treat it like a discrimination initiative in disguise. If you don't treat every situation of the above of all male teams/projects/funds like that, I am not sure why you do so in this case. --- Edit: Update formatting
- tacitusarc 5y ago
  I think the question here is about probabilities. What is the likelihood of particular gender ratios within particular fields? If this were in the field of nursing which is dominated by women, I would be very surprised to see a group of (exclusively) men leading some advocacy/project.
- greatpostman 5y ago
  Oh please
- xblpark 5y ago
  You omitted "the language used", also look at the "prototype fund" and some of its sponsored projects.
test0account 5y ago
Correct. The government has a spending target, let's say 56% of GDP (that is taxes, how much you can borrow from creditors, and how much money printing you can afford). Then they divide that money in categories, and it turns out IT industrial policy got allocated that much money, which they divide into projects. In this project, they build a comittee, which decides the best is to subsidise cool sounding initiatives by well connected, politically correct groups. Top to bottom government spending that goes wasted in politically connected groups that give nothing back to society.
Xylakant 5y ago
> The language used and the fact that the same persons are involved in two government funded funds strongly suggests that this is a diversity initiative in disguise. This initiative is form the Open Knowledge Foundation Germany, a foundation that’s like a decade old. One of their projects is the prototype fund. Is it really surprising that the people involved in one initiative of the OKFN are involved in another of their initiatives, especially since it revolves broadly around the same topic - funding public interest software? Are you seriously suggesting that the OKFN is a front to distribute government money to a thinly veiled diversity initiative? Because the language used in your comment strongly suggest so. But I don’t have proof in this case, so I will not claim that this is what you’re doing.

by cappr 5y ago

rhamzeh 5y ago

> The people listed in the study are all female > strongly suggests that this is a diversity initiative in disguise It would be great if we can use this logic backwards. For any team or initiative we see that is all male, we treat it like a discrimination initiative in disguise. If you don't treat every situation of the above of all male teams/projects/funds like that, I am not sure why you do so in this case. --- Edit: Update formatting

tacitusarc 5y ago
I think the question here is about probabilities. What is the likelihood of particular gender ratios within particular fields? If this were in the field of nursing which is dominated by women, I would be very surprised to see a group of (exclusively) men leading some advocacy/project.
greatpostman 5y ago
Oh please
xblpark 5y ago
You omitted "the language used", also look at the "prototype fund" and some of its sponsored projects.

test0account 5y ago

Correct. The government has a spending target, let's say 56% of GDP (that is taxes, how much you can borrow from creditors, and how much money printing you can afford). Then they divide that money in categories, and it turns out IT industrial policy got allocated that much money, which they divide into projects. In this project, they build a comittee, which decides the best is to subsidise cool sounding initiatives by well connected, politically correct groups. Top to bottom government spending that goes wasted in politically connected groups that give nothing back to society.

Xylakant 5y ago

> The language used and the fact that the same persons are involved in two government funded funds strongly suggests that this is a diversity initiative in disguise. This initiative is form the Open Knowledge Foundation Germany, a foundation that’s like a decade old. One of their projects is the prototype fund. Is it really surprising that the people involved in one initiative of the OKFN are involved in another of their initiatives, especially since it revolves broadly around the same topic - funding public interest software? Are you seriously suggesting that the OKFN is a front to distribute government money to a thinly veiled diversity initiative? Because the language used in your comment strongly suggest so. But I don’t have proof in this case, so I will not claim that this is what you’re doing.