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This is time and structure of society, not soviet times or not. I have been to deep Russia places where they had gulags, etc. 10 years ago. Inta, Vorkuta, Irku

This is time and structure of society, not soviet times or not. I have been to deep Russia places where they had gulags, etc. 10 years ago. Inta, Vorkuta, Irkutsk and plenty small towns around and I can tell a few things which are very clearly seen - when the train passes 200kilometers from Moscow - it is deserted with nothing new. You could even experience that by going to Moscow by bus and back. You will be surprised how clean and amazing everything looks when you pass russian/latvian border on your way back. Yes - living in suburbs can be harder, but the difference in cleanliness and life quality (while can be worse than in city) is day and night in Russia and in the Baltics with Baltics being superior.

vkazanov 5y ago
Maybe you are right, I've only been to, say, 5-7 major cities in Russia. What I am saying is that for people like my parents, grandparents and myself it's really hard to compare life in Lithuania these days and the older times as there's nothing left to compare, really. 27 of 30 of my classmates are spread throughout Europe, including myself. I have more lithuanian friends in uk than I do back in Lt. Good for them, I suppose, not so good for places I care about. And this is how many ppl from remote Lt places feel like.
- pedrosorio 5y ago
  Speaking from a country that was never part of Soviet Union, this is just https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization It has been happening for decades, all over the world.
  - vkazanov 5y ago
    Sure, a well-known process. I think in the Baltic states this is magnified by population decrease and internal EU migration. Population: https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/lithuania-population/ https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/lithuania-pop... I think the population decrease numbers can be multiplied by 2 if you take EU emigration into account. I see it as the biggest long-term problem Lithuania is facing. The country is not that big and crowded to begin with, and in 20-30 years it's projected to be even smaller. And the society is just not ready for the obvious solution - immigrants.

vkazanov 5y ago

Maybe you are right, I've only been to, say, 5-7 major cities in Russia. What I am saying is that for people like my parents, grandparents and myself it's really hard to compare life in Lithuania these days and the older times as there's nothing left to compare, really. 27 of 30 of my classmates are spread throughout Europe, including myself. I have more lithuanian friends in uk than I do back in Lt. Good for them, I suppose, not so good for places I care about. And this is how many ppl from remote Lt places feel like.

pedrosorio 5y ago
Speaking from a country that was never part of Soviet Union, this is just https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization It has been happening for decades, all over the world.
- vkazanov 5y ago
  Sure, a well-known process. I think in the Baltic states this is magnified by population decrease and internal EU migration. Population: https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/lithuania-population/ https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/lithuania-pop... I think the population decrease numbers can be multiplied by 2 if you take EU emigration into account. I see it as the biggest long-term problem Lithuania is facing. The country is not that big and crowded to begin with, and in 20-30 years it's projected to be even smaller. And the society is just not ready for the obvious solution - immigrants.