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And I still find it surreal that people in world's richest country live in wooden houses. People still die in scary numbers there no matter the regulations. C

And I still find it surreal that people in world's richest country live in wooden houses. People still die in scary numbers there no matter the regulations. Cars can't be made safer anymore. 60Mphs frontal collisions have single digit percentage survivability chance because physics. Homes can be made much safer by building them differently.

Turing_Machine 5y ago
> And I still find it surreal that people in world's richest country live in wooden houses. A lot of those people live in seismically active areas. While modern masonry construction is certainly safer than traditional masonry, in general wood is far less dangerous than stone or brick in an earthquake.
- baybal2 5y ago
  And steel, or reinforced concrete are safer than both.
  - Turing_Machine 5y ago
    Where in the world are single-family homes typically made of steel or reinforced concrete? Note: not apartments. Houses.
    - baybal2 5y ago
      Quite a lot in Russia, China, and Middle East from my personal experience.
      - Turing_Machine 5y ago
        Those aren't exactly the locations that come to mind when you think of "luxury housing". I mean, I don't think people are living in those houses by choice, do you? Steel and concrete are ugly and cold. Wood is warm. Even brick and stone are more humane.
kube-system 5y ago
Wood tends to get a lot of criticism on the internet as a building material, but it has advantages as well. Cars can absolutely be made safer. They certainly haven’t stopped getting safer yet.
- baybal2 5y ago
  No amount of safety system will save you in a 60mph crash.
  - kube-system 5y ago
    1. People survive crashes at highway speeds in the US literally every day, at 60mph and above. 2. 60mph is a speed not a force imparted on a vehicle. The way with which a vehicle’s momentum at 60mph is dissipated makes a critical difference to the crash energy imparted on the occupants. Road design has greatly improved this in recent decades. 3. Active crash prevention/mitigation systems can prevent 60mph accidents from happening or improve their outcomes.
    - baybal2 5y ago
      > Active crash prevention/mitigation systems can prevent 60mph accidents from happening or improve their outcomes. Yes, but that doesn't count as surviving the crash > 60mph is a speed not a force imparted on a vehicle. The force imparted on you in a 60mph crash by the seatbelt will be lethal no matter how much deceleration space you have. You got at 27 meters per second, and you only have at a maximum 1 meter to decelerate. And if you crash into a heavier, faster vehicle, it's even worse.
      - kube-system 5y ago
        > Yes, but that doesn't count as surviving the crash It counts as making cars safer which was the above claim I am supporting. > you only have at a maximum 1 meter to decelerate. And if you crash into a heavier, faster vehicle, it's even worse. Most vehicle crashes are not head-on incidents. Improvements in road design have affected the proportion of crashes that are head-on. Recent improvements in active safety features may decrease this further: eg. lane departure mitigation. In many real-world accidents, vehicles have dozens or hundreds of meters to decelerate.

Turing_Machine 5y ago

> And I still find it surreal that people in world's richest country live in wooden houses. A lot of those people live in seismically active areas. While modern masonry construction is certainly safer than traditional masonry, in general wood is far less dangerous than stone or brick in an earthquake.

baybal2 5y ago
And steel, or reinforced concrete are safer than both.
- Turing_Machine 5y ago
  Where in the world are single-family homes typically made of steel or reinforced concrete? Note: not apartments. Houses.
  - baybal2 5y ago
    Quite a lot in Russia, China, and Middle East from my personal experience.
    - Turing_Machine 5y ago
      Those aren't exactly the locations that come to mind when you think of "luxury housing". I mean, I don't think people are living in those houses by choice, do you? Steel and concrete are ugly and cold. Wood is warm. Even brick and stone are more humane.

kube-system 5y ago

Wood tends to get a lot of criticism on the internet as a building material, but it has advantages as well. Cars can absolutely be made safer. They certainly haven’t stopped getting safer yet.

baybal2 5y ago
No amount of safety system will save you in a 60mph crash.
- kube-system 5y ago
  1. People survive crashes at highway speeds in the US literally every day, at 60mph and above. 2. 60mph is a speed not a force imparted on a vehicle. The way with which a vehicle’s momentum at 60mph is dissipated makes a critical difference to the crash energy imparted on the occupants. Road design has greatly improved this in recent decades. 3. Active crash prevention/mitigation systems can prevent 60mph accidents from happening or improve their outcomes.
  - baybal2 5y ago
    > Active crash prevention/mitigation systems can prevent 60mph accidents from happening or improve their outcomes. Yes, but that doesn't count as surviving the crash > 60mph is a speed not a force imparted on a vehicle. The force imparted on you in a 60mph crash by the seatbelt will be lethal no matter how much deceleration space you have. You got at 27 meters per second, and you only have at a maximum 1 meter to decelerate. And if you crash into a heavier, faster vehicle, it's even worse.
    - kube-system 5y ago
      > Yes, but that doesn't count as surviving the crash It counts as making cars safer which was the above claim I am supporting. > you only have at a maximum 1 meter to decelerate. And if you crash into a heavier, faster vehicle, it's even worse. Most vehicle crashes are not head-on incidents. Improvements in road design have affected the proportion of crashes that are head-on. Recent improvements in active safety features may decrease this further: eg. lane departure mitigation. In many real-world accidents, vehicles have dozens or hundreds of meters to decelerate.