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The concept of AGI is extraordinarily materialistic. Most humans through history believed in spiritual dimensions of reality, including many of those responsibl
by srcreigh 5y ago
The concept of AGI is extraordinarily materialistic. Most humans through history believed in spiritual dimensions of reality, including many of those responsible for developing technologies we use today.
The argument for AGI goes something like, the brain is a self contained computational machine, humans do extraordinary things with it, therefore a turing machine can achieve human+ level competence.
Most humans, who are not materialistic, see the brain as an interface to both physical and spiritual realities. Computers cannot access the spiritual realities, except indirectly through human input.
I'd wager that we're more dumb terminals connecting to the mainframe than most of us would like to believe.
- lostmsu 5y agoMost humans through history believed that Earth is flat. I would not trust anyone who still believes in the remnants of that faith with any reasonable predictions on scientific questions with (relatively) long term validation horizons.
- srcreigh 5y agoIf you want to limit the scope of your science, go ahead. Spirituality is nothing other than the science of your own thoughts, beliefs, will, and intention. The person who refuses to look through a microscope can doubt the existence of germs all they want, doesn't mean germs don't exist.
- lostmsu 5y agoThe "spiritual" folks have been unable to show any kind of "microscope" in almost 60 years now. Bring you argument back once you actually have one. Can also earn $1M https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranorma...
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- srcreigh 5y agoI will believe in the germs if you can make them knock on my door and say hello, but I won't look into any microscopes... It's easy to use a bad experiment and not get results. Doesn't mean there aren't results to be had with a better experiment.
- lostmsu 5y agoI am not sure what are you trying to say. Where's the experiment? It is nowhere. Everyone who tried to come up with one so far failed. That's the whole reason why that believe is nonsense.