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In almost all countries you can buy citizenship if you're rich. You don't even need to know the language. Immigration and all these gimmicks are for peasants on

In almost all countries you can buy citizenship if you're rich. You don't even need to know the language. Immigration and all these gimmicks are for peasants only.

vanusa 5y ago
In almost all countries you can buy citizenship if you're rich. This isn't about simply "buying citizenship". It's about literally bouncing people who are already citizens out (for the duration of the pandemic).
- passerby1 5y ago
  Although controversal, there's no clear way to resolve utilitarian way of seeing this: an investment is required, and sometimes the investment can be good for society by improving a country economy. For sure, the condition is paying taxes, and that is usually a partially satisfied only, as there're almost always a way to avoid tax. (Otherwise what's the reason for a rich one to invest into country at all?)
  - andrekandre 5y ago
    > Otherwise what's the reason for a rich one to invest into country at all? what are they all investing in?
- bener 5y ago
  It's not. It gives rich people more chance at getting a visa. People who are already citizens don't need a visa.
- deleted 5y ago
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- roca 5y ago
  "Bounced out"? No citizens are being forced to leave the country. These new visa holders just make it a little bit harder for citizens and residents to enter the country, that's all. Over 200,000 people have gone through MIQ during the pandemic --- that's a lot for a population of 5M. People who wanted to come back since the start of the pandemic have been able to come back.
xdennis 5y ago
Are you certain about that? Few countries actually whore themselves out.
- ilrwbwrkhv 5y ago
  Yup certain. It is surprising that all the countries which complain about illegal immigration open their legs wide when you have the money. Looking at US, UK in particular.
tchalla 5y ago
> In almost all countries you can buy citizenship if you're rich. I don't think you can buy citizenship in most Central/Western European countries. You may be able to buy residence status but not citizenship.
- ratorx 5y ago
  I think the parent is treating citizenship == permanentish visa in his comment. The article is also about a Investor visa, not citizenship. I’ve checked 2 (UK and Switzerland) and both offer some form of Investor visa, so it’s really no different to the New Zealand situation (other than general restrictions on entering the country).
- ilrwbwrkhv 5y ago
  Permanent residency of some kind and citizenship right after. All the biggest Western European countries. Trust me when you have money, everyone's a whore.

In almost all countries you can buy citizenship if you're rich. You don't even need to know the language. Immigration and all these gimmicks are for peasants only.

vanusa 5y ago

In almost all countries you can buy citizenship if you're rich. This isn't about simply "buying citizenship". It's about literally bouncing people who are already citizens out (for the duration of the pandemic).

passerby1 5y ago
Although controversal, there's no clear way to resolve utilitarian way of seeing this: an investment is required, and sometimes the investment can be good for society by improving a country economy. For sure, the condition is paying taxes, and that is usually a partially satisfied only, as there're almost always a way to avoid tax. (Otherwise what's the reason for a rich one to invest into country at all?)
- andrekandre 5y ago
  > Otherwise what's the reason for a rich one to invest into country at all? what are they all investing in?
bener 5y ago
It's not. It gives rich people more chance at getting a visa. People who are already citizens don't need a visa.
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roca 5y ago
"Bounced out"? No citizens are being forced to leave the country. These new visa holders just make it a little bit harder for citizens and residents to enter the country, that's all. Over 200,000 people have gone through MIQ during the pandemic --- that's a lot for a population of 5M. People who wanted to come back since the start of the pandemic have been able to come back.

xdennis 5y ago

Are you certain about that? Few countries actually whore themselves out.

ilrwbwrkhv 5y ago
Yup certain. It is surprising that all the countries which complain about illegal immigration open their legs wide when you have the money. Looking at US, UK in particular.

tchalla 5y ago

> In almost all countries you can buy citizenship if you're rich. I don't think you can buy citizenship in most Central/Western European countries. You may be able to buy residence status but not citizenship.

ratorx 5y ago
I think the parent is treating citizenship == permanentish visa in his comment. The article is also about a Investor visa, not citizenship. I’ve checked 2 (UK and Switzerland) and both offer some form of Investor visa, so it’s really no different to the New Zealand situation (other than general restrictions on entering the country).
ilrwbwrkhv 5y ago
Permanent residency of some kind and citizenship right after. All the biggest Western European countries. Trust me when you have money, everyone's a whore.