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I think the cat was out of the bag when kimdotcom was indicted. New Zealand is bought and paid for by the cloistered elite seemingly against any real argument

I think the cat was out of the bag when kimdotcom was indicted. New Zealand is bought and paid for by the cloistered elite seemingly against any real argument by the locals. You could make an argument the work here/look see initiative that imported skilled labor was somehow a counter indication of a plutocracy but I think its largely just salt in the wound for the average NZ resident as it ran defense for anyone who pointed a finger at silicon valley for buying their island oasis. They could have spent that money on stem education locally but outright chose not to.

selimthegrim 5y ago
What’s the point of spending more on STEM education when the absurdly low salaries for tech and IT positions already have them going begging for workers?
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- gameswithgo 5y ago
  Increase the supply
roca 5y ago
Counterpoint: Larry Page entered NZ in early 2021 and was placed in a middling MIQ hotel. His people tried to get him moved to one of the best hotels but were unable to do so. Page is the world's fifth richest person. I think this counts against "New Zealand is bought and paid for by the cloistered elite".
- vasco 5y ago
  They severely restricted the freedom to return home from all citizens but since they also made billionaire stay in a middle of the road hotel this is what sticks?
  - roca 5y ago
    MIQ was an essential component of the elimination strategy. Elimination was a fundamentally egalitarian strategy; it disproptionately benefited the less-well-off, who inevitably suffer more when the virus is allowed to spread, and it was disproportionately costly to the wealthy and privileged, who had their jet-set lifestyles curtailed. International travellers are mostly not the underprivileged of society.
- rasz 5y ago
  Was this at the time he was allowed to enter NZ despite Total ban on entry? >NZ charter 4200 kilometer medevac flight while country is on total lock down, and the emergency is so urgent whole thing takes >24 hours before the flight even takes off. “The day after the application was received, a New Zealand air ambulance staffed by a New Zealand ICU nurse-escort medevaced the child and an adult family member from Fiji to New Zealand,” https://apnews.com/article/technology-lifestyle-travel-new-zealand-immigration-b7184a3296dea7c8c276232d615da0ac https://apnews.com/article/technology-lifestyle-travel-new-z... Reminder, Sydney is merely 1 hour extra flight time away and borders were wide open in January.

selimthegrim 5y ago

What’s the point of spending more on STEM education when the absurdly low salaries for tech and IT positions already have them going begging for workers?

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gameswithgo 5y ago
Increase the supply

roca 5y ago

Counterpoint: Larry Page entered NZ in early 2021 and was placed in a middling MIQ hotel. His people tried to get him moved to one of the best hotels but were unable to do so. Page is the world's fifth richest person. I think this counts against "New Zealand is bought and paid for by the cloistered elite".

vasco 5y ago
They severely restricted the freedom to return home from all citizens but since they also made billionaire stay in a middle of the road hotel this is what sticks?
- roca 5y ago
  MIQ was an essential component of the elimination strategy. Elimination was a fundamentally egalitarian strategy; it disproptionately benefited the less-well-off, who inevitably suffer more when the virus is allowed to spread, and it was disproportionately costly to the wealthy and privileged, who had their jet-set lifestyles curtailed. International travellers are mostly not the underprivileged of society.
rasz 5y ago
Was this at the time he was allowed to enter NZ despite Total ban on entry? >NZ charter 4200 kilometer medevac flight while country is on total lock down, and the emergency is so urgent whole thing takes >24 hours before the flight even takes off. “The day after the application was received, a New Zealand air ambulance staffed by a New Zealand ICU nurse-escort medevaced the child and an adult family member from Fiji to New Zealand,” https://apnews.com/article/technology-lifestyle-travel-new-zealand-immigration-b7184a3296dea7c8c276232d615da0ac https://apnews.com/article/technology-lifestyle-travel-new-z... Reminder, Sydney is merely 1 hour extra flight time away and borders were wide open in January.