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It's not always vacation. Many people have close family abroad that they want you see. Sometimes with medical issues so they may not get another chance. I woul

It's not always vacation. Many people have close family abroad that they want you see. Sometimes with medical issues so they may not get another chance. I wouldn't travel if vacation was the only reason. Especially if I were living in NZ which is one of the most beautiful places on earth IMO It's also kinda unfair to expect people to have seen Omikron coming :) with the distance to Europe most people from here in NZ only visit family once a year and often go for months. Suddenly returning would have been difficult and costly. I'm surprised the fairly left-wing current NZ government is prioritising investors like this though.

newnamenewface 5y ago
> It's also kinda unfair to expect people to have seen Omikron coming Perhaps, it's unfair that the government is obligating severe COVID restrictions on travel for citizens (and non-citizens, alike) in a country with 80+% vaccination rates for a disease that's essentially endemic at this point. NZ seems to be just pushing the problem down the line at this point. There will never be a time where they can just open without any cases so why are they still so incredibly restrictive? FWIW: I am not a NZer, I don't plan to visit NZ any time soon, and I'll admit I'm relatively unversed on the political situation in NZ.
- pempem 5y ago
  Just to add to your FWIW: covid is also not endemic. These regulations sound too restrictive but the attitude towards covid also seems kind of advanced of where we actually are, which is a disease that is mutating due to people traveling and artificial vaccine scarcity
  - sh4un 5y ago
    I am sure there are countries where the entire government has art degrees and they took their covid advise from a zombie movie.
    - pempem 5y ago
      I would argue an even more tragic scenario: countries where the entire government is business people and lawyers. ;)
- pixel_fcker 5y ago
  A few weeks ago everyone was expecting them to replace MIQ with home self-isolation in Feb-April thanks to the vaccine uptake. Now Omicron has thrown that all up in the air.
sh4un 5y ago
In countries like Canada a lot of people signed up for government benefits and went back to their origin country to stretch their free money and then got stuck when the money stopped and the government stopped letting people back in. The people you hear whining are not the people leaving for medical reasons. It's almost a sport watching people on the news complain about their ruined vacations.
InvertedRhodium 5y ago
> It's not always vacation. Many people have close family abroad that they want you see. How is that not a vacation?
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  I consider a vacation to be something where you sit in the sun on a beach purely for fun. Visiting family abroad is usually done on vacation time at work but it's much more necessary.

newnamenewface 5y ago

> It's also kinda unfair to expect people to have seen Omikron coming Perhaps, it's unfair that the government is obligating severe COVID restrictions on travel for citizens (and non-citizens, alike) in a country with 80+% vaccination rates for a disease that's essentially endemic at this point. NZ seems to be just pushing the problem down the line at this point. There will never be a time where they can just open without any cases so why are they still so incredibly restrictive? FWIW: I am not a NZer, I don't plan to visit NZ any time soon, and I'll admit I'm relatively unversed on the political situation in NZ.

pempem 5y ago
Just to add to your FWIW: covid is also not endemic. These regulations sound too restrictive but the attitude towards covid also seems kind of advanced of where we actually are, which is a disease that is mutating due to people traveling and artificial vaccine scarcity
- sh4un 5y ago
  I am sure there are countries where the entire government has art degrees and they took their covid advise from a zombie movie.
  - pempem 5y ago
    I would argue an even more tragic scenario: countries where the entire government is business people and lawyers. ;)
pixel_fcker 5y ago
A few weeks ago everyone was expecting them to replace MIQ with home self-isolation in Feb-April thanks to the vaccine uptake. Now Omicron has thrown that all up in the air.

sh4un 5y ago

In countries like Canada a lot of people signed up for government benefits and went back to their origin country to stretch their free money and then got stuck when the money stopped and the government stopped letting people back in. The people you hear whining are not the people leaving for medical reasons. It's almost a sport watching people on the news complain about their ruined vacations.

InvertedRhodium 5y ago

> It's not always vacation. Many people have close family abroad that they want you see. How is that not a vacation?

GekkePrutser 5y ago
I consider a vacation to be something where you sit in the sun on a beach purely for fun. Visiting family abroad is usually done on vacation time at work but it's much more necessary.