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Relevant [dead] comment: fogus 20 minutes ago | link [dead] ad hominem rhetoric Yikes! I seem to have struck a chord with Mr. Pollack. The problem is tha

Relevant [dead] comment: fogus 20 minutes ago | link [dead] ad hominem rhetoric Yikes! I seem to have struck a chord with Mr. Pollack. The problem is that I'm not sure that the gap between what he said and what I said is very large. I certainly wasn't attacking him in my post, although I did link to his article. Additionally, I would never question his Scala credentials, but I tend to question those who say that Scala is complicated based on type signatures and syntax oddities. However, I will say in that with his latest post I think the gap between our opinions has widened. His comes off as cynical, but I have to think that I'm misreading the post. I do however find it odd that "ad hominem" would be used by someone who bases a dev's programming potential on the number of hours they choose to work during the day and their familiarity with Zed Shaw.

andrewcooke 15y ago
the gap between what he felt and what you said is only large because you are, apparently, completely tone deaf. programming and communicating in english are quite different things. you are good at programming, apparently, but not at communicating with the written word. that's ok. after all 50% of people are below average. and just because you're not good at this doesn't mean you can't still chat to friends in the hallway.
- fogus 15y ago
  In the case of my blog post I would say you are 100% correct. Without a doubt I was unable to get my point across since Mr. Pollack, whose work on Lift I respect, thinks that I attacked him personally instead of his point. As for my more general tone-deafness and inability to communicate using the English language I can only say that if I keep at it, then maybe I'll one day be successful.
- JoachimSchipper 15y ago
  Another [dead] comment: fogus 6 hours ago | link [dead] In the case of my blog post I would say you are 100% correct. Without a doubt I was unable to get my point across since Mr. Pollack, whose work on Lift I respect, thinks that I attacked him personally instead of his point. As for my more general tone-deafness and inability to communicate using the English language I can only say that if I keep at it, then maybe I'll one day be successful.
eengbrec 15y ago
I don't think the gap between what he originally said and your response was large. I was rather surprised by his "ad hominem" remark, but the rest of his last blog was pretty much exactly what I would have expected. DPP's a freelance consultant, and I suspect one with no shortage of business. He'd rather stick to projects where the technology he is advocating won't get blamed if the project fails. That's not really surprising.
irahul 15y ago
Why is fogus being downvoted? I don't see anything wrong with his comments - he is being civil and rational.
- JoachimSchipper 15y ago
  He's not getting downvoted, he's getting flagged - mere downvotes don't result in [dead] comments. I didn't follow the whole discussion (especially since I was on holidays), but the comments I saw were not obviously worthy of being [dead]; hence my repost.
- bodski 15y ago
  I agree, the only 'rebuttal' to fogus comment seems to be saying that he is tone deaf and bad at communicating with no explanation of why. The flagging of his comments seems to be other politics at work with no explanation of what they are.
- ap22213 15y ago
  The anonymous down-voting on hn is really a problem.

andrewcooke 15y ago

the gap between what he felt and what you said is only large because you are, apparently, completely tone deaf. programming and communicating in english are quite different things. you are good at programming, apparently, but not at communicating with the written word. that's ok. after all 50% of people are below average. and just because you're not good at this doesn't mean you can't still chat to friends in the hallway.

fogus 15y ago
In the case of my blog post I would say you are 100% correct. Without a doubt I was unable to get my point across since Mr. Pollack, whose work on Lift I respect, thinks that I attacked him personally instead of his point. As for my more general tone-deafness and inability to communicate using the English language I can only say that if I keep at it, then maybe I'll one day be successful.
JoachimSchipper 15y ago
Another [dead] comment: fogus 6 hours ago | link [dead] In the case of my blog post I would say you are 100% correct. Without a doubt I was unable to get my point across since Mr. Pollack, whose work on Lift I respect, thinks that I attacked him personally instead of his point. As for my more general tone-deafness and inability to communicate using the English language I can only say that if I keep at it, then maybe I'll one day be successful.

eengbrec 15y ago

I don't think the gap between what he originally said and your response was large. I was rather surprised by his "ad hominem" remark, but the rest of his last blog was pretty much exactly what I would have expected. DPP's a freelance consultant, and I suspect one with no shortage of business. He'd rather stick to projects where the technology he is advocating won't get blamed if the project fails. That's not really surprising.

irahul 15y ago

Why is fogus being downvoted? I don't see anything wrong with his comments - he is being civil and rational.

JoachimSchipper 15y ago
He's not getting downvoted, he's getting flagged - mere downvotes don't result in [dead] comments. I didn't follow the whole discussion (especially since I was on holidays), but the comments I saw were not obviously worthy of being [dead]; hence my repost.
bodski 15y ago
I agree, the only 'rebuttal' to fogus comment seems to be saying that he is tone deaf and bad at communicating with no explanation of why. The flagging of his comments seems to be other politics at work with no explanation of what they are.
ap22213 15y ago
The anonymous down-voting on hn is really a problem.