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I'm honestly sick of seeing these posts. Every single post I've seen on HN, I have had no down time in EC2, S3, Workspaces, FSx for Windows, Directory Service,

by 300bps 5y ago

I'm honestly sick of seeing these posts. Every single post I've seen on HN, I have had no down time in EC2, S3, Workspaces, FSx for Windows, Directory Service, Console, etc. Over 200 services, 86 availability zones and 26 regions. We might as well post every 5 minutes if we post every time something on AWS goes down. And yes AWS is more dependent on us-east-1 but one of the outrages posts was for a minor outage in us-west-1.

ineedasername 5y ago
Well, there really shouldn't be be a service-- even across all regions and products-- going down every five minutes. Especially because it would mean service that needed to be in multiple regions around the world would almost always be having some type of issue.
- ineedasername 5y ago
  Hmm, am I wrong in this? I admittedly don't work on things of worldwide or nationwide of that scale so if my statement isn't accurate I like to learn from it. Thanks for any additional insight & explanation.
  - gregjor 5y ago
    You aren’t necessarily wrong, but there’s a difference between a service at AWS scale experiencing frequent problems (inevitable if you think about it) and what actual impact those problems have. Overall the vast majority of AWS users don’t experience frequent problems. By analogy cars crash every few minutes in my city (Las Vegas), but I can’t conclude that indicates some inherent (or easily fixable) problem with the road infrastructure or the design of cars, or the skill of drivers. The frequent crashes rarely affect me.
    - ineedasername 5y ago
      Thanks, that makes sense. I always like to know why I'm wrong, but getting that explanation can be a fine line to avoid looking like you're complaining about downvotes. I could care less about the votes, but I do want to learn. Much appreciated.
tyingq 5y ago
>one of the outrages posts was for a minor outage in us-west-1. It was both us-west-1 and us-west-2, for 45 minutes or so. Was interesting for Auth0 customers, as they use us-west-2 as their primary, and us-west-1 is the failover location.
mogul100 5y ago
walrus01 5y ago
> Every single post I've seen on HN, I have had no down time and I'm averaging six nines uptime over the past year on a $5 KVM virtual machine hosted at a sketchy hosting company, but that doesn't mean something catastrophic can't or won't happen unexpectedly
- tata71 5y ago
  Measured by who?
  - walrus01 5y ago
    my own external-to-the-vm monitoring tools that poll its availability for answering pings and ssh, and its own system uptime. note that I count the six nines as unplanned downtime, it's had less availability than that because I reboot it for a newer kernel and debian-stable system updates maybe every 4-5 months.

by 300bps 5y ago

ineedasername 5y ago

Well, there really shouldn't be be a service-- even across all regions and products-- going down every five minutes. Especially because it would mean service that needed to be in multiple regions around the world would almost always be having some type of issue.

ineedasername 5y ago
Hmm, am I wrong in this? I admittedly don't work on things of worldwide or nationwide of that scale so if my statement isn't accurate I like to learn from it. Thanks for any additional insight & explanation.
- gregjor 5y ago
  You aren’t necessarily wrong, but there’s a difference between a service at AWS scale experiencing frequent problems (inevitable if you think about it) and what actual impact those problems have. Overall the vast majority of AWS users don’t experience frequent problems. By analogy cars crash every few minutes in my city (Las Vegas), but I can’t conclude that indicates some inherent (or easily fixable) problem with the road infrastructure or the design of cars, or the skill of drivers. The frequent crashes rarely affect me.
  - ineedasername 5y ago
    Thanks, that makes sense. I always like to know why I'm wrong, but getting that explanation can be a fine line to avoid looking like you're complaining about downvotes. I could care less about the votes, but I do want to learn. Much appreciated.

tyingq 5y ago

>one of the outrages posts was for a minor outage in us-west-1. It was both us-west-1 and us-west-2, for 45 minutes or so. Was interesting for Auth0 customers, as they use us-west-2 as their primary, and us-west-1 is the failover location.

mogul100 5y ago

walrus01 5y ago

> Every single post I've seen on HN, I have had no down time and I'm averaging six nines uptime over the past year on a $5 KVM virtual machine hosted at a sketchy hosting company, but that doesn't mean something catastrophic can't or won't happen unexpectedly

tata71 5y ago
Measured by who?
- walrus01 5y ago
  my own external-to-the-vm monitoring tools that poll its availability for answering pings and ssh, and its own system uptime. note that I count the six nines as unplanned downtime, it's had less availability than that because I reboot it for a newer kernel and debian-stable system updates maybe every 4-5 months.