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I think people are being naive if they don't see this as the future across the board: The Internet simply can't exist outside or above the law of the land. It's
by ocdtrekkie 5y ago
I think people are being naive if they don't see this as the future across the board: The Internet simply can't exist outside or above the law of the land. It's a very powerful communication tool, but it still physically exists within countries with varying laws and customs.
I doubt the Internet will truly fracture into individual networks completely, but you should expect things to be selective on what is shared between borders, just like with everything else.
China and Russia have strong political reasons to be ahead of the curve on this, but I would expect many other countries to begin to follow suit for reasons of national security: Cyberattacks absolutely can cause loss of life, and it's a matter of time until it happens on a large scale.
- mycall 5y agoI wonder how Russia and China prevents satellite internet. Threats of destroying the satellites?
- cute_boi 5y agocan't we ban it easily just by not allowing the radio devices? (I don't know how trivial is to make satellites internet connector like dishes etc.)
- ansgri 5y agoPowerful transmitters are most certainly heavily regulated.
- datameta 5y agoThat's MAD, but for global satellite usage due to Kessler Syndrome.
- ocdtrekkie 5y agoBut all major powers have now demonstrated they retain the option if needbe.
- datameta 5y agoRight, exactly - mutually assured destruction of orbital usage because of everyone retaining the option.
- yaris 5y agoAccording to Russian law all traffic via satellite should first go through ”landing” stations in Russia and then via usual cables to IXs. And if a satellite provider does not comply - their terminals cannot legally be bought in/imported to Russia.
- xxpor 5y agoMore practically speaking, the issue is for sat internet, you need to both receive (relatively easy to hide, at least from broad based surveillance), but also transmit (much much easier to pick up). So I doubt starlink will be a panacea.
- treeman79 5y agoRussia just blew up a satellite. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/russia-just-blew-up-a-satellite-heres-why-that-spells-trouble-for-spaceflight https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/russia-ju...
- quocanh 5y agoThis is overstated in my opinion. The internet will remain relatively free in true democratic states unless there's a population of people out there who are just begging for their government to lie to them and manipulate them.
- ocdtrekkie 5y agoI definitely agree that within democratic states, people will generally see and enjoy a relatively open and democratic Internet, reflective of their nation's laws and values. However, I suspect you'll find much more inspection going in and out of national borders. You'll see stricter laws about hosting data in the country you're operating in, and more servers will blanket ban access from outside of their intended service area. Consider that if my site serves a local area only, I eliminate a very large portion of potential attackers by simply dropping all traffic not originating from an IP in my country of origin. So if I don't believe there's value to leaving that open... it's honestly silly to do so.
- quocanh 5y agoSure and that's one thing. But to say that Russia and China are "ahead of the curve" is sort of implying that the future of my internet is only government-approved information and that's simply not true. You need to accept that authoritarian states are unique in the type of censorship that they do. It is not inevitable for everybody nor does this type of censorship make any sense for anybody but the ruling party.
- lazide 5y agoThere are a lot of people like that now, everywhere including the US?