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Agree with this 100%. It’s fine to say “this type of work is beneath me.” It’s not fine to say “this type of work is beneath me” and then expect to continue wor

Agree with this 100%. It’s fine to say “this type of work is beneath me.” It’s not fine to say “this type of work is beneath me” and then expect to continue working at a company whose values say otherwise.

danaris 5y ago
There's a big difference between "this type of work is beneath me" and... - This type of work is not what I interviewed and hired for - This type of work will aggravate my bad back/knees/rotator cuff/etc - This type of work triggers my very strong anxiety - This type of work requires skills I do not have - This type of work requires equipment that the company is not providing me (doesn't matter if I own it; if the company wants it done, they damn well better provide the means) Different people have different needs. If I were hired to be a programmer for DoorDash, and they told me one day that the next I would, instead, be driving my car in unfamiliar neighborhoods, being expected to deliver X amount of product per Y amount of time? I'd be putting in my notice. Just like if I were someone who has no programming background working as a driver for DoorDash, and they told me one day that the next I would be starting work on a project to upgrade feature Z in the app, with an expected delivery date based on highly trained programmers and no training.
- paulcole 5y ago
  A couple of your examples can be handled by providing a reasonable accommodation/alternative because of established health condition. But the others… > This type of work requires skills I do not have Great, see this as an opportunity to develop new skills! Take it or quit/be fired. > This type of work requires equipment that the company is not providing me OK, either do it or quit/be fired. > This type of work is not what I interviewed and hired for OK, either do it or quit/be fired. Making bad (but legal) decisions and fucking up a business isn’t (usually) a crime — if it is, lock me up! You may not like what your employer is telling you to do, but for the most part either do it or don’t.
- DarylZero 5y ago
  The programmers are in a position of power over the delivery drivers, through the power of their code. Making the programmers do the delivery driving themselves can help them to identify with those over whom they exercise power. Not really though because the cash stakes aren't real.
  - bluefirebrand 5y ago
    > The programmers are in a position of power over the delivery drivers, through the power of their code I've never worked in a place where programmers decide what to build. At best they decide how to build what they are "asked" (told) to build. If they try and dispute what to build, they are often told to hit the bricks.
    - DarylZero 5y ago
      Programmers like every other human being decide what they are willing to do and what they are not willing to do.

danaris 5y ago

There's a big difference between "this type of work is beneath me" and... - This type of work is not what I interviewed and hired for - This type of work will aggravate my bad back/knees/rotator cuff/etc - This type of work triggers my very strong anxiety - This type of work requires skills I do not have - This type of work requires equipment that the company is not providing me (doesn't matter if I own it; if the company wants it done, they damn well better provide the means) Different people have different needs. If I were hired to be a programmer for DoorDash, and they told me one day that the next I would, instead, be driving my car in unfamiliar neighborhoods, being expected to deliver X amount of product per Y amount of time? I'd be putting in my notice. Just like if I were someone who has no programming background working as a driver for DoorDash, and they told me one day that the next I would be starting work on a project to upgrade feature Z in the app, with an expected delivery date based on highly trained programmers and no training.

paulcole 5y ago
A couple of your examples can be handled by providing a reasonable accommodation/alternative because of established health condition. But the others… > This type of work requires skills I do not have Great, see this as an opportunity to develop new skills! Take it or quit/be fired. > This type of work requires equipment that the company is not providing me OK, either do it or quit/be fired. > This type of work is not what I interviewed and hired for OK, either do it or quit/be fired. Making bad (but legal) decisions and fucking up a business isn’t (usually) a crime — if it is, lock me up! You may not like what your employer is telling you to do, but for the most part either do it or don’t.
DarylZero 5y ago
The programmers are in a position of power over the delivery drivers, through the power of their code. Making the programmers do the delivery driving themselves can help them to identify with those over whom they exercise power. Not really though because the cash stakes aren't real.
- bluefirebrand 5y ago
  > The programmers are in a position of power over the delivery drivers, through the power of their code I've never worked in a place where programmers decide what to build. At best they decide how to build what they are "asked" (told) to build. If they try and dispute what to build, they are often told to hit the bricks.
  - DarylZero 5y ago
    Programmers like every other human being decide what they are willing to do and what they are not willing to do.