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Yeah, transparency and honesty doesn't win elections. It's hilarious that this is a conservative posting this, since Trump spend 4 years wiping his ass with no

by Pxtl 5y ago

Yeah, transparency and honesty doesn't win elections. It's hilarious that this is a conservative posting this, since Trump spend 4 years wiping his ass with norms and revealing how broken the system is, and how all the "rules" were just suggestions he could abuse freely and half the USA still approved of him.

JackFr 5y ago
Why is that hilarious? As a conservative, it’s worth noting there’s truly nothing substantially conservative about Trump. He singlehandedly did more damage to the Republican Party than anyone since Nixon, and I would say more. Purge is an ugly word, but absent wholesale house cleaning of Trumpist grifters from the party I don’t see a useful future for it. However, it seems your point us that you fundamentally agree with OPs central thesis, but that you can’t believe someone politically aligned differently than you can have possibly made that argument.
nickysielicki 5y ago
I take issue with you calling me conservative, I’m a libertarian.
- renewiltord 5y ago
  P(this comment | conservative) = 0.999…
- Pxtl 5y ago
  At this point it's very difficult to take that kind of comment seriously. The actions of the mainstream libertarian movement has fallen in line with conservatives and been co-opted so consistently by the worst reactionaries in the conservative movement that, regardless of philosophical underpinnings, it's a distinction without a difference.
  - nickysielicki 5y ago
    Well I guess I just have to become a Democrat then. I mean what do you expect me to do as a Ron Paul libertarian? Does Trumps pushing of executive privilege and his profits on his hotels touch the type of corruption that Clinton represents in this email? https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12659 https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12659 My vote in 2016 was a single-issue vote against involvement in a war in Syria. I feel totally vindicated 5 years later. If being antiwar is bad, I don’t want to be right.
    - human_person 5y ago
      As a libertarian what’s your stance on bodily autonomy?
    - ncmncm 5y ago
      Me? I expect you to stay home. The Pauls have fallen meekly in line behind Trump, like all their, er, colleagues.

by Pxtl 5y ago

JackFr 5y ago

Why is that hilarious? As a conservative, it’s worth noting there’s truly nothing substantially conservative about Trump. He singlehandedly did more damage to the Republican Party than anyone since Nixon, and I would say more. Purge is an ugly word, but absent wholesale house cleaning of Trumpist grifters from the party I don’t see a useful future for it. However, it seems your point us that you fundamentally agree with OPs central thesis, but that you can’t believe someone politically aligned differently than you can have possibly made that argument.

nickysielicki 5y ago

I take issue with you calling me conservative, I’m a libertarian.

renewiltord 5y ago
P(this comment | conservative) = 0.999…
Pxtl 5y ago
At this point it's very difficult to take that kind of comment seriously. The actions of the mainstream libertarian movement has fallen in line with conservatives and been co-opted so consistently by the worst reactionaries in the conservative movement that, regardless of philosophical underpinnings, it's a distinction without a difference.
- nickysielicki 5y ago
  Well I guess I just have to become a Democrat then. I mean what do you expect me to do as a Ron Paul libertarian? Does Trumps pushing of executive privilege and his profits on his hotels touch the type of corruption that Clinton represents in this email? https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12659 https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12659 My vote in 2016 was a single-issue vote against involvement in a war in Syria. I feel totally vindicated 5 years later. If being antiwar is bad, I don’t want to be right.
  - human_person 5y ago
    As a libertarian what’s your stance on bodily autonomy?
  - ncmncm 5y ago
    Me? I expect you to stay home. The Pauls have fallen meekly in line behind Trump, like all their, er, colleagues.