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Can you host it on vultr? Just $2.50/mo for half a gig of RAM instance.

by moltar 5y ago

adtac 5y ago
I don't think you get a static IPv4 address with that instance.
- baggachipz 5y ago
  Not anymore. The one with IPV4 is $3.50/mo now.
southerntofu 5y ago
This defeats the entire point of selfhosting whether it's for security concerns or autonomy. The ecological impact of VPS hosting every single service you need is also not negligible: datacenters require huge amounts of resources and infrastructure which a simple second-hand machine at home doesn't. (also worth mentioning: email protocols were explicitly conceived so that uptime is not a worry)
- elondaits 5y ago
  Datacenters use energy and computer resources more efficiently than a machine at home, unless the machine at home is already running some other tasks that you can't move to the datacenter. A computer that's 99% idle is wasting most of the energy it consumes.
  - southerntofu 5y ago
    > Datacenters use energy and computer resources more efficiently That is both true and misleading. Once the datacenter and all surrounding infrastructure (optic fibers, fuel pit, dedicated electricity lines, cooling equipment) and all server/networking hardware has been built, then you start having a better efficiency. If the whole cycle is taken into account, there's no way VPS can be as "green" as selfhosting. A computer will usually take more energy to build than it will consume over its entire lifetime, so repurposing an existing machine is a good way to go (if you consider minerals-related pollution, even more so). Also, when you're in a datacenter, servers will be changed every few years. For something as simple/lightweight as email, a 20y old computer will do just fine. A datacenter will renew its entire hardware a few times in that timeframe. > A computer that's 99% idle is wasting most of the energy it consumes That is true whether it's in a datacenter or at home. But of course you can share/mutualize resources with other people in order to mitigate this.
- southerntofu 5y ago
  If someone who downvoted has better arguments than the industry's propaganda, i'm all ears.

Can you host it on vultr? Just $2.50/mo for half a gig of RAM instance.

by moltar 5y ago

Can you host it on vultr? Just $2.50/mo for half a gig of RAM instance.

adtac 5y ago

I don't think you get a static IPv4 address with that instance.

baggachipz 5y ago
Not anymore. The one with IPV4 is $3.50/mo now.

southerntofu 5y ago

This defeats the entire point of selfhosting whether it's for security concerns or autonomy. The ecological impact of VPS hosting every single service you need is also not negligible: datacenters require huge amounts of resources and infrastructure which a simple second-hand machine at home doesn't. (also worth mentioning: email protocols were explicitly conceived so that uptime is not a worry)

elondaits 5y ago
Datacenters use energy and computer resources more efficiently than a machine at home, unless the machine at home is already running some other tasks that you can't move to the datacenter. A computer that's 99% idle is wasting most of the energy it consumes.
- southerntofu 5y ago
  > Datacenters use energy and computer resources more efficiently That is both true and misleading. Once the datacenter and all surrounding infrastructure (optic fibers, fuel pit, dedicated electricity lines, cooling equipment) and all server/networking hardware has been built, then you start having a better efficiency. If the whole cycle is taken into account, there's no way VPS can be as "green" as selfhosting. A computer will usually take more energy to build than it will consume over its entire lifetime, so repurposing an existing machine is a good way to go (if you consider minerals-related pollution, even more so). Also, when you're in a datacenter, servers will be changed every few years. For something as simple/lightweight as email, a 20y old computer will do just fine. A datacenter will renew its entire hardware a few times in that timeframe. > A computer that's 99% idle is wasting most of the energy it consumes That is true whether it's in a datacenter or at home. But of course you can share/mutualize resources with other people in order to mitigate this.
southerntofu 5y ago
If someone who downvoted has better arguments than the industry's propaganda, i'm all ears.