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To deny that race is a social construct by word salads full of "left-wing victim-hood" etc is even more deluded than your "the news is a union conspiracy" posts

To deny that race is a social construct by word salads full of "left-wing victim-hood" etc is even more deluded than your "the news is a union conspiracy" posts.

CryptoPunk 5y ago
Using a lot of words to describe a complex reality != word salad, your disingenuous characterization notwithstanding. And that "race is a social construct" idea is part of a victimhood narrative is totally obvious. See how the idea is nested here for instance: https://www.vox.com/2014/10/10/6943461/race-social-construct-origins-census https://www.vox.com/2014/10/10/6943461/race-social-construct... >>Americans bought into this idea, too. Why was it so appealing? "Americans of European descent invented race during the era of the American Revolution as a way of resolving the contradiction between a natural right to freedom and the fact of slavery," historian Barbara J. Fields explained in a presentation to the producers of PBS's series Race: The Power of An Illusion (which is worth checking out for more detailed information on all this). The journalists at Vox are fully unionized by the way. Any way, this kind of victimhood/injustice framing is extremely common, and was even posited by the other commenter in this very discussion! >>will you at least concede that race was a social construct? And that it predated our understanding of genetics and was used to, among other things, justify slavery, eugenics and other human misery? But now you want to gaslight people into believing that this victimhood narrative isn't the main context in which the concept appears? >>more deluded than your "the news is a union conspiracy" posts. Your pithy response to my argument that unionized news staff have an economic interest in promoting left wing political ideas - when I've elaborated at length as to why I believe this is the case - suggests you're approaching this issue very emotionally, and not in a good faith attempt to open-mindedly explore what I'm saying to see if it's true.

To deny that race is a social construct by word salads full of "left-wing victim-hood" etc is even more deluded than your "the news is a union conspiracy" posts.

CryptoPunk 5y ago

Using a lot of words to describe a complex reality != word salad, your disingenuous characterization notwithstanding. And that "race is a social construct" idea is part of a victimhood narrative is totally obvious. See how the idea is nested here for instance: https://www.vox.com/2014/10/10/6943461/race-social-construct-origins-census https://www.vox.com/2014/10/10/6943461/race-social-construct... >>Americans bought into this idea, too. Why was it so appealing? "Americans of European descent invented race during the era of the American Revolution as a way of resolving the contradiction between a natural right to freedom and the fact of slavery," historian Barbara J. Fields explained in a presentation to the producers of PBS's series Race: The Power of An Illusion (which is worth checking out for more detailed information on all this). The journalists at Vox are fully unionized by the way. Any way, this kind of victimhood/injustice framing is extremely common, and was even posited by the other commenter in this very discussion! >>will you at least concede that race was a social construct? And that it predated our understanding of genetics and was used to, among other things, justify slavery, eugenics and other human misery? But now you want to gaslight people into believing that this victimhood narrative isn't the main context in which the concept appears? >>more deluded than your "the news is a union conspiracy" posts. Your pithy response to my argument that unionized news staff have an economic interest in promoting left wing political ideas - when I've elaborated at length as to why I believe this is the case - suggests you're approaching this issue very emotionally, and not in a good faith attempt to open-mindedly explore what I'm saying to see if it's true.