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And I think you're assigning me malicious motiviations, and ignoring valid research that doesn't support your own prejudices. To be painstakingly clear about w
by _od5n 5y ago
And I think you're assigning me malicious motiviations, and ignoring valid research that doesn't support your own prejudices.
To be painstakingly clear about what I'm saying here: while the 2R MAO-A allele is more common among black males than in other groups, it's only present in a single-digit percentage of even that most-affected group. Of all those men with the allele, most don't commit any crime. Only <0.01% of Americans of all races are arrested for violent crime each year. When we discuss violent criminals with a genetic predisposition to aggression, we're talking about a tiny minority of a minority of a minority, way below single-digit percentages, not all members of a particular racial group.
The trouble is, that tiny minority of a minority of a minority can still skew total arrest numbers. If 0.02% of one racial group commits violent crime in a year versus 0.01% for members of another group, comparitive arrest rates will seem racially disproportionate. If that difference is seen as "police are all racist, and have a negative overall impact on black communities", bad policy may result. See recent crime spikes in American cities for examples, where de-policed minority communities have been among the hardest hit by rising violence.
The good news is that MAO-A deficiency can be identified and treated pharmacologically with progesterone supplementation. Researchers have also explored CRISPR-based therapies to boost MAO-A expression. I see this condition and its treatment as analogous to Vitamin D deficiency, which for obvious genetic reasons disproportionately affects people with dark skin. If we decide we're finally allowed to talk about it, the problem can be tackled constructively and the problems caused by ignoring it will vanish.
I don't believe you're sincere in your interest in the research, but in case you are, here are a few recent studies w/ relevant quotes from each abstract. Please tell me which ones you think are discredited:
University of Kentucky, 2015: "Low functioning MAOA genotypes have been reliably linked to increased reactive aggression" - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25637908/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25637908/
National Institute for Health and Welfare, Finland, 2015: "Our results, from two independent cohorts of Finnish prisoners, revealed that a monoamine oxidase A (MAOA) low-activity genotype (contributing to low dopamine turnover rate) as well as the CDH13 gene (coding for neuronal membrane adhesion protein) are associated with extremely violent behavior (at least 10 committed homicides, attempted homicides or batteries)." - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25349169/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25349169/
University of Kansas, 2016: "In particular, converging lines of evidence have documented that these maladaptive manifestations of aggression are influenced by monoamine oxidase A (MAOA), the enzyme that catalyzes the degradation of brain serotonin, norepinephrine and dopamine." - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26776902/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26776902/
University of Heidelberg, 2019: "Previous studies have linked the low expression variant of a variable number of tandem repeat polymorphism in the monoamine oxidase A gene (MAOA-L) to the risk for impulsivity and aggression" - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31441562/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31441562/
University of Toronto, 2020: "Over the past two decades, research has revealed that genetic factors shape the propensity for aggressive, antisocial, and violent behavior. The best-documented gene implicated in aggression is MAOA (Monoamine oxidase A), which encodes the key enzyme for the degradation of serotonin and catecholamines. Congenital MAOA deficiency, as well as low-activity MAOA variants, has been associated with a higher risk for antisocial behavior (ASB) and violence, particularly in males with a history of child maltreatment." - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32574581/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32574581/
- alphabettsy 5y agoI don’t believe you have malicious intent. What you’ve posted tells me I was exactly on point with what you’re getting at. I’m familiar with race realism, science used to support it, and the people who believe in it. I believe you’re probably well-intentioned, but you know what they say about that. > recent crime spikes in American cities for examples, where de-policed minority communities have been among the hardest hit by rising violence. They probably appreciate your concern, but how can you list so many studies and still assert something widely untrue like the “de-policed minority communities”. My issue isn’t with the science. It’s that people like yourself take the science and attempt to use it to justify circumstances or policy while ignoring seemingly all else. I’ve seen all but the last study you’ve listed before, but I'm not interested in engaging with you further. I'm certain there are plenty that are willing to hear and share your ideas. Maybe you could even make some money and write for them; https://prowhiteparty.wordpress.com/2020/12/17/black-people-have-a-much-higher-incidence-of-the-mao-a-violence-gene-25/ https://prowhiteparty.wordpress.com/2020/12/17/black-people-...
- _od5n 5y agoSo you've flipped from bad-faith speculation about my intent to, "I believe you’re probably well-intentioned", and from "I believe you’re using discredited research" to, "my issue isn’t with the science," without addressing any of the studies I linked or the consensus they represent. And now you're gaslighting about the post-George Floyd nationwide pullpack in policing: >but how can you list so many studies and still assert something widely untrue like the “de-policed minority communities” To illustrate how wrong you are with just a few examples: * Portland abolished their gun violence unit in 2020 in response to the George Floyd protests. Gun homicides have soared as a result to their highest level in 30 years, mostly in minority communities [0]. * While violent crime soared in Chicago last year, also chiefly in minority communities, arrest rates for violent crime fell. The UChicago crime lab attributes this in part to a "pulling back of proactive policing" [1]. * "In a reversal of plans to divert funding from police to social services, Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf said Monday that she'll push to reverse planned cuts to the city's police department and seek to quickly hire more officers amid a spike in violence and homicides that has left some residents afraid to leave their homes" [2]. >Maybe you could even make some money and write for them; https://prowhiteparty.wordpress.com/2020/12/17/black-people- https://prowhiteparty.wordpress.com/2020/12/17/black-people-... I'm not interested in race chauvanism, race-based nationalism, or racist politics generally. I support colorblind policy with class-based affirmative action, and the vigorous enforcement of laws against racial discrimination. >I'm not interested in engaging with you further. Good, I'm done responding to your repeated falsehoods and bad-faith accusations. Thanks for revealing your true nature to the reader. [0] https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2021/10/under-the-gun-who-has-died-in-portlands-historic-wave-of-shootings-violence.html https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2021/10/under-the-gun-who-h... [1] https://news.yahoo.com/chicago-violent-crime-arrests-down-122021891.html https://news.yahoo.com/chicago-violent-crime-arrests-down-12... [2] https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/oakland-mayor-seeks-reverse-police-cuts-amid-crime-81455703 https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/oakland-mayor-seeks-reve...