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> The FOSS that was imagined by Stallman, where end-users could actually use FOSS products in their everyday lives, is not possible under capitalism I have to

> The FOSS that was imagined by Stallman, where end-users could actually use FOSS products in their everyday lives, is not possible under capitalism I have to disagree. Use a Linux based operating system, self-host your internet services at home, use google free android, or do a subset of that. Its all open source and works locally.

Invictus0 5y ago
Simply get an FTP account, mount it locally with curlftpfs, and then use SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem.
- tkot 5y ago
  Is CurlFtpFS still developed? Last time I considered using it it looked abandoned and there was some regression from years ago which supposedly made it really slow. I think rclone offers pretty much the same functionality and more?
nopenopenopeno 5y ago
end-user != IT professionals For average end-users, “use a linux based operating system” alone comprises a mountain of barriers, but most are rarely even approached because they’re preempted by lack of reliable hardware support and lack of support for staple applications like Word, Excel, and Photoshop.
- tlocke 5y ago
  Is this still true? The latest version of Ubuntu will run fine on most laptops that Windows will run on, and LibreOffice provides an equivalent to MS-Office. I'm not sure about Photoshop because I don't use an image editor, but in the Open Source world there's Gimp, Krita and Pinta for example.
- ldiracdelta 5y ago
  It is getting easier. There was a time when I, as an "IT professional", dared not use Linux for the unbearable amount of pain that I would experience in wifi drivers, screen resolutions and support, et c. It is absolutely, objectively getting easier to use the linux ecosystem.
- Melkman 5y ago
  End users have no problem -using- a Linux computer. My 75+ year old mom uses it and can do everything she wants. Mostly things she wants to do are web-based. A Chromebook would probably be fine for her too. No, she didn't install it herself. But she never installed Windows her self too. And yes I had to fiddle a bit with Wine to get her online bridge (the card game) program working. For older people things like W11 upgrade being pushed is hell. They click a button that popped up without knowing what it will do and if everything goes well the desktop has changed and the don't know where to click anymore. If the upgrade doesn't go well they are entirely lost.
_y5hn 5y ago
Just installed Chromium instead of Chrome on my linux workstation. Heck, you can even deploy your own private cloud locally with FOSS. It's all a spectrum, with free learning material everywhere. Yes, some of thr licenses and agreements are less free, but in truth, never before have so much been available. You can break that golden cage. What you put attention on matters.

Invictus0 5y ago

Simply get an FTP account, mount it locally with curlftpfs, and then use SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem.

tkot 5y ago
Is CurlFtpFS still developed? Last time I considered using it it looked abandoned and there was some regression from years ago which supposedly made it really slow. I think rclone offers pretty much the same functionality and more?

nopenopenopeno 5y ago

end-user != IT professionals For average end-users, “use a linux based operating system” alone comprises a mountain of barriers, but most are rarely even approached because they’re preempted by lack of reliable hardware support and lack of support for staple applications like Word, Excel, and Photoshop.

tlocke 5y ago
Is this still true? The latest version of Ubuntu will run fine on most laptops that Windows will run on, and LibreOffice provides an equivalent to MS-Office. I'm not sure about Photoshop because I don't use an image editor, but in the Open Source world there's Gimp, Krita and Pinta for example.
ldiracdelta 5y ago
It is getting easier. There was a time when I, as an "IT professional", dared not use Linux for the unbearable amount of pain that I would experience in wifi drivers, screen resolutions and support, et c. It is absolutely, objectively getting easier to use the linux ecosystem.
Melkman 5y ago
End users have no problem -using- a Linux computer. My 75+ year old mom uses it and can do everything she wants. Mostly things she wants to do are web-based. A Chromebook would probably be fine for her too. No, she didn't install it herself. But she never installed Windows her self too. And yes I had to fiddle a bit with Wine to get her online bridge (the card game) program working. For older people things like W11 upgrade being pushed is hell. They click a button that popped up without knowing what it will do and if everything goes well the desktop has changed and the don't know where to click anymore. If the upgrade doesn't go well they are entirely lost.

_y5hn 5y ago

Just installed Chromium instead of Chrome on my linux workstation. Heck, you can even deploy your own private cloud locally with FOSS. It's all a spectrum, with free learning material everywhere. Yes, some of thr licenses and agreements are less free, but in truth, never before have so much been available. You can break that golden cage. What you put attention on matters.