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I don't argue that early CFL's had big problems, but I'd seriously encourage you to try again. First, they're quite cheap. Assuming you don't need dimmable CF

I don't argue that early CFL's had big problems, but I'd seriously encourage you to try again. First, they're quite cheap. Assuming you don't need dimmable CFL's, you can get them for less than $1/bulb. With my utility's incentive programs (Southern California Edison), I often see 60W replacements for ~$0.20/bulb. Second, they've gotten quite a bit better. Less buzzing, less failure and an overall better quality of light.

tomjen3 15y ago
Thing is there is no reason to change lightbulb technology the old bulbs worked perfectly. So when new bulbs are put on the market it isn't unrealistic to expect them to work as least aswell as the ones they are supposed to replace. When they fail to do that, why should we risk even more money just because thay are supposed to be less bad now.
- atourgates 15y ago
  No reason? Only if you don't care about your energy bill. Running a 60W light bulb for 6-hours a day for a year costs - in California - $18.25. Multiply that by, I donno, 5 bulbs in your house and you're spending $91.25/yr on your lighting. If you replace those 5 60W bulbs with 13W CFL's, and your cost is just $21.90/yr for the same amount of light. Even including the cost of buying 5 new CFL bulbs, and ignoring the cost of replacing your incandescent lights, you're going to save ~$65 in energy savings just the 1st year.
  - tomjen3 15y ago
    Which is shit for nothing when you compare it with the cost of gas, rent or (and this particulary irks me: food). I run only the bulb in the room I am in, which means i would save less than 20$/year which is less than my low care limit. Add the shit lighting early bulb death and possibility of mercury poisoning my room (you are supposed to leave for half an hour after you drop one, then clean up with heavy gloves) and replacing the bulb goes from an economically decent idea to something less than attractive.
tomjen3 15y ago
Thing is there is no reason to change lightbulb technology the old bulbs worked perfectly. So when new bulbs are put on the market it isn't unrealistic to expect them to work as least aswell as the ones they are supposed to replace. When they fail to do that, why should we risk even more money just because thay are supposed to be less bad now.
tomjen3 15y ago
Thing is there is no reason to change lightbulb technology the old bulbs worked perfectly. So when new bulbs are put on the market it isn't unrealistic to expect them to work as least aswell as the ones they are supposed to replace. When they fail to do that, why should we risk even more money just because thay are supposed to be less bad now.

tomjen3 15y ago

Thing is there is no reason to change lightbulb technology the old bulbs worked perfectly. So when new bulbs are put on the market it isn't unrealistic to expect them to work as least aswell as the ones they are supposed to replace. When they fail to do that, why should we risk even more money just because thay are supposed to be less bad now.

atourgates 15y ago
No reason? Only if you don't care about your energy bill. Running a 60W light bulb for 6-hours a day for a year costs - in California - $18.25. Multiply that by, I donno, 5 bulbs in your house and you're spending $91.25/yr on your lighting. If you replace those 5 60W bulbs with 13W CFL's, and your cost is just $21.90/yr for the same amount of light. Even including the cost of buying 5 new CFL bulbs, and ignoring the cost of replacing your incandescent lights, you're going to save ~$65 in energy savings just the 1st year.
- tomjen3 15y ago
  Which is shit for nothing when you compare it with the cost of gas, rent or (and this particulary irks me: food). I run only the bulb in the room I am in, which means i would save less than 20$/year which is less than my low care limit. Add the shit lighting early bulb death and possibility of mercury poisoning my room (you are supposed to leave for half an hour after you drop one, then clean up with heavy gloves) and replacing the bulb goes from an economically decent idea to something less than attractive.

tomjen3 15y ago