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"Oops the algorithm did it" cannot be an excuse for everything. Oh the algorithm did it? Then hold the people who developed/pushed for it responsible then. Oh

"Oops the algorithm did it" cannot be an excuse for everything. Oh the algorithm did it? Then hold the people who developed/pushed for it responsible then. Oh it's hard to make algorithms that don't make terrible decisions? Maybe then you should remove those algorithms and, say, have an ad review team.

khazhoux 5y ago
"Break up FB" still doesn't directly fix the problem. Breaking up FB would be a punishment but not actually a fix for the problem.
charcircuit 5y ago
False negatives and positives are just a reality that every content moderation system is going to have.
yibg 5y ago
How does bad algorithms relate to size?
natechols 5y ago
Isn't approximately half of the Facebook workforce doing manual content moderation already? I was under the impression that it's an enormous time suck and morale killer that lets a ton of awful stuff through, hence the desire for automated solutions.
- gherkinnn 5y ago
  In which case there is something fundamentally wrong with the platform. If they’re producing more diarrhoea than they can shovel, maybe they should go easy on the laxatives.
  - Shared404 5y ago
    > In which case there is something fundamentally wrong with the platform. This is my take as well. Not every business/platform has a right to exist, and if something is fatally flawed in this manner, don't let it keep crawling along, kill it.
- totony 5y ago
  Even if that were the case (it does not seem to be), that would probably still be too little vs the number of users. https://onezero.medium.com/facebook-is-too-big-to-moderate-9ffa9ee126f9 https://onezero.medium.com/facebook-is-too-big-to-moderate-9...
- pmontra 5y ago
  In that case FB doesn't have enough workforce. If it's impossible to have enough workforce then scale down FB. It's not heating or water, if it goes away tomorrow as a Christmas present we can easily do without it as we always did. Actually we'll be better off IMHO.

khazhoux 5y ago

"Break up FB" still doesn't directly fix the problem. Breaking up FB would be a punishment but not actually a fix for the problem.

charcircuit 5y ago

False negatives and positives are just a reality that every content moderation system is going to have.

yibg 5y ago

How does bad algorithms relate to size?

natechols 5y ago

Isn't approximately half of the Facebook workforce doing manual content moderation already? I was under the impression that it's an enormous time suck and morale killer that lets a ton of awful stuff through, hence the desire for automated solutions.

gherkinnn 5y ago
In which case there is something fundamentally wrong with the platform. If they’re producing more diarrhoea than they can shovel, maybe they should go easy on the laxatives.
- Shared404 5y ago
  > In which case there is something fundamentally wrong with the platform. This is my take as well. Not every business/platform has a right to exist, and if something is fatally flawed in this manner, don't let it keep crawling along, kill it.
totony 5y ago
Even if that were the case (it does not seem to be), that would probably still be too little vs the number of users. https://onezero.medium.com/facebook-is-too-big-to-moderate-9ffa9ee126f9 https://onezero.medium.com/facebook-is-too-big-to-moderate-9...
pmontra 5y ago
In that case FB doesn't have enough workforce. If it's impossible to have enough workforce then scale down FB. It's not heating or water, if it goes away tomorrow as a Christmas present we can easily do without it as we always did. Actually we'll be better off IMHO.