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Good advice even for one job--whether remote or in-person. Why put in 30% more effort, when you are not getting paid 30% more. That's why stick to the average p

Good advice even for one job--whether remote or in-person. Why put in 30% more effort, when you are not getting paid 30% more. That's why stick to the average pace of your team.

ithkuil 5y ago
May ai suggest a different spin? Try to put 30% more effort, but into learning stuff for your own sake. This will make you a better engineer. As a side effect you may be more worth to the company you work for and/of get a better job somewhere else later.
- raincom 5y ago
  That is possible for some people, also depends on the culture of the team one is part of. An average guy needs good mentors, good team mates who can teach, etc. Such teams are very hard to find. So, in that case, one has to be driven to learn on his own without any aid.
  - ithkuil 5y ago
    Sure. But it's also a matter of attitude. If you don't even try because "that looks like work and I'm not paid enough for this" you won't even know what is holding you back. It could be that you need mentors, it could need that you just need to read or watch videos or practice. That said, it's perfectly fine to just do your job and not like it. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't conclude that working more necessary means that you're giving away your time for free to your employer. Often you can get something in return, if you make sure you pick the right kind of extra work.
jacobr1 5y ago
The classic advice is for career advancement. For promotions and raises and for internal political capital to promote the projects you want, or the implementation you think best. Sure, if you just want to a be a cog in the machine, without broader responsibility (and the historically much higher compensation for that) then don't do more than the is necessary to ensure you remain employed. But it probably is more lucrative to achieve some success, and then leverage that to the next thing (which might need to be a different company).
- HPsquared 5y ago
  It depends on whether you believe internal political capital is gained from effort, or time spent waiting for good luck. If you believe the latter, working two jobs gives twice as many "lottery tickets". In reality it's a combination of luck and effort, but luck is definitely a factor.

Good advice even for one job--whether remote or in-person. Why put in 30% more effort, when you are not getting paid 30% more. That's why stick to the average pace of your team.

ithkuil 5y ago

May ai suggest a different spin? Try to put 30% more effort, but into learning stuff for your own sake. This will make you a better engineer. As a side effect you may be more worth to the company you work for and/of get a better job somewhere else later.

raincom 5y ago
That is possible for some people, also depends on the culture of the team one is part of. An average guy needs good mentors, good team mates who can teach, etc. Such teams are very hard to find. So, in that case, one has to be driven to learn on his own without any aid.
- ithkuil 5y ago
  Sure. But it's also a matter of attitude. If you don't even try because "that looks like work and I'm not paid enough for this" you won't even know what is holding you back. It could be that you need mentors, it could need that you just need to read or watch videos or practice. That said, it's perfectly fine to just do your job and not like it. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't conclude that working more necessary means that you're giving away your time for free to your employer. Often you can get something in return, if you make sure you pick the right kind of extra work.

jacobr1 5y ago

The classic advice is for career advancement. For promotions and raises and for internal political capital to promote the projects you want, or the implementation you think best. Sure, if you just want to a be a cog in the machine, without broader responsibility (and the historically much higher compensation for that) then don't do more than the is necessary to ensure you remain employed. But it probably is more lucrative to achieve some success, and then leverage that to the next thing (which might need to be a different company).

HPsquared 5y ago
It depends on whether you believe internal political capital is gained from effort, or time spent waiting for good luck. If you believe the latter, working two jobs gives twice as many "lottery tickets". In reality it's a combination of luck and effort, but luck is definitely a factor.