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i m gonna defend twitter as it s the only place where i find original thinkers and ideas. And yeah i hate the loss of RSS

innocentoldguy 5y ago
It used to be that way, but with Twitter's new draconian censorship, it's just an echo chamber of stale "approved" ideas.
- cblconfederate 5y ago
  i aggressively unfollow people who turn to political activists. It is a good source of information but that probably has to do with the decline of RSS as well. I think as a protocol it is promising, even if it was text-only.
- KarlKemp 5y ago
  Antisemitism isn’t exactly a “new” idea. If people you follow are routinely shut down by Twitter, you should maybe try some not-quite-as-hatey ideas for a change. As a point of reference: I follow 1,400 people, including a lot in science and art. I can’t remember a single person I follow being permanently banned.
  - lobocinza 5y ago
    Numbers does not mean much in this case, you can follow 1400 people/bots but be exposed to a subset that generally agrees with what's socially accepted and thus have a false impression of free thought. For an instance you can't follow those that were banned or left on their volition. I'm disgusted by your unsolicited insinuation. What you said, for me, it's similar to someone saying that Navalny might be a criminal because you know many people and don't recall any of them being arrested. It's ignorant and patronizing at the same time. In this post-truth era it's not uncommon for someone to be falsely accused and persecuted. It's not uncommon for someone to be cancelled just for not agreeing with the mass. In my experience, if hate speech and pseudo science were to be truly banned Twitter would cease to exist. Also, if you follow ~1400 people how can you be sure that many of those weren't banned or shadow banned?
rektide 5y ago
i think twitter is still humanity's one & only interesting intermingling spot online. basically there's no other mass engaged options; win by default. through few virtues of twitters own, other than the happenstanve of being ancient as fuck: the living/undying/undead proof of metcalfe's law & the irreplaceability it implies. nothing comes close. it is the only online hotbed of mass democratic activity & it's so interesting. personally it has gotten a lot more droll & tired but imo that's just the age, the world today: less exciting, less energy, shittier. but twitter murdering in the cradle alternative interfaces, ideas, tools... them de-democratizing democracy... that was deeply deeply deeply traitorous. it really held back the ability of people to participate as they might in democracy, to advance their own perch & perspective in the fray. it keeps us trapped at a low mode, forever and ever. as well as sabotaging the general age of hopefulness & apis we were underway exploring. one huge fuck up for twitter, a mass epic radical loss for human & societal values in general. fuck us.
lobocinza 5y ago
You can use RSSHub to generate RSS feeds for Twitter but that will require self-hosting it and requesting an API token for personal use. I went through the trouble and then nuked my account on the next day. Leaving Twitter as well as any other centralized/closed platform is for the best.

innocentoldguy 5y ago

It used to be that way, but with Twitter's new draconian censorship, it's just an echo chamber of stale "approved" ideas.

cblconfederate 5y ago
i aggressively unfollow people who turn to political activists. It is a good source of information but that probably has to do with the decline of RSS as well. I think as a protocol it is promising, even if it was text-only.
KarlKemp 5y ago
Antisemitism isn’t exactly a “new” idea. If people you follow are routinely shut down by Twitter, you should maybe try some not-quite-as-hatey ideas for a change. As a point of reference: I follow 1,400 people, including a lot in science and art. I can’t remember a single person I follow being permanently banned.
- lobocinza 5y ago
  Numbers does not mean much in this case, you can follow 1400 people/bots but be exposed to a subset that generally agrees with what's socially accepted and thus have a false impression of free thought. For an instance you can't follow those that were banned or left on their volition. I'm disgusted by your unsolicited insinuation. What you said, for me, it's similar to someone saying that Navalny might be a criminal because you know many people and don't recall any of them being arrested. It's ignorant and patronizing at the same time. In this post-truth era it's not uncommon for someone to be falsely accused and persecuted. It's not uncommon for someone to be cancelled just for not agreeing with the mass. In my experience, if hate speech and pseudo science were to be truly banned Twitter would cease to exist. Also, if you follow ~1400 people how can you be sure that many of those weren't banned or shadow banned?

rektide 5y ago

i think twitter is still humanity's one & only interesting intermingling spot online. basically there's no other mass engaged options; win by default. through few virtues of twitters own, other than the happenstanve of being ancient as fuck: the living/undying/undead proof of metcalfe's law & the irreplaceability it implies. nothing comes close. it is the only online hotbed of mass democratic activity & it's so interesting. personally it has gotten a lot more droll & tired but imo that's just the age, the world today: less exciting, less energy, shittier. but twitter murdering in the cradle alternative interfaces, ideas, tools... them de-democratizing democracy... that was deeply deeply deeply traitorous. it really held back the ability of people to participate as they might in democracy, to advance their own perch & perspective in the fray. it keeps us trapped at a low mode, forever and ever. as well as sabotaging the general age of hopefulness & apis we were underway exploring. one huge fuck up for twitter, a mass epic radical loss for human & societal values in general. fuck us.

lobocinza 5y ago

You can use RSSHub to generate RSS feeds for Twitter but that will require self-hosting it and requesting an API token for personal use. I went through the trouble and then nuked my account on the next day. Leaving Twitter as well as any other centralized/closed platform is for the best.