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Dr. Alina Chan doubles down on Covid-19 Wuhan lab origin theory

23 points by qwertyuiop_ 5y ago

malshe 5y ago
I just now bought her book. That’s my reading for the next week. In her interviews she comes off as a thoughtful person. I’m generally surprised by the strong resistance to the lab leak theory in the American media.
- qwertyuiop_ 5y ago
  They are on CCP payroll https://tfipost.com/2020/06/china-paid-19-million-to-get-washington-post-new-york-times-and-wall-street-journal-to-dance-to-its-tunes/ https://tfipost.com/2020/06/china-paid-19-million-to-get-was...
  - malshe 5y ago
    Is this a credible source? I find it hard to believe that NYT was sold for $50k.
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  The 2007 outbreak of foot and mouth disease in the UK was caused by an actual leak of infected fluid out of a lab in Surrey. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_Kingdom_foot-and-mouth_outbreak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_Kingdom_foot-and-m... When the "battle of Covid disinformation" raged in the media, I often noticed that the factcheckers had a tendency to say that no human epidemic was ever provably linked to a lab leak. While true, it was a bit misleading, precisely because of this non-human, but still very economically and societally important disease outbreak which happened in a very developed country and quite recently. I do not really understand why so many people, including some who have no conflict of interest (unlike Peter Daszak!), tend to regard Wuhan lab leak as a dirty, stupid conspiracy theory. Shit happens all the time, no precautions are perfect. If Fukushima, Chernobyl or Challenger happened, a leak of a virus from a lab can happen as well.
  - malshe 5y ago
    Thanks for sharing the Wikipedia link. I had no idea about this incident! I totally agree that shit happens all the time. That’s the default, the null hypothesis for any system where humans are involved.
  - westcort 5y ago
    Not so. A human flu pandemic occurred in 1977 due to leak of H1N1 from a lab along the Russo-Chinese border: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/science/did-leak-from-a-laboratory-cause-swine-flu-pandemic-1724448.html%3Famp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/scie...
bigphishy 5y ago
I liked Jon Stewart's take on the Wuhan Lab Theory https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sSfejgwbDQ8 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sSfejgwbDQ8 watching that always cracks me up
tim333 5y ago
Ridley, the co-author is quite good in this interview about it all https://youtu.be/xdRksNG4uvU https://youtu.be/xdRksNG4uvU I'm glad people are trying to get some clarity on what went on.

23 points by qwertyuiop_ 5y ago

I just now bought her book. That’s my reading for the next week. In her interviews she comes off as a thoughtful person. I’m generally surprised by the strong resistance to the lab leak theory in the American media.

qwertyuiop_ 5y ago
They are on CCP payroll https://tfipost.com/2020/06/china-paid-19-million-to-get-washington-post-new-york-times-and-wall-street-journal-to-dance-to-its-tunes/ https://tfipost.com/2020/06/china-paid-19-million-to-get-was...
- malshe 5y ago
  Is this a credible source? I find it hard to believe that NYT was sold for $50k.
inglor_cz 5y ago
The 2007 outbreak of foot and mouth disease in the UK was caused by an actual leak of infected fluid out of a lab in Surrey. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_Kingdom_foot-and-mouth_outbreak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_Kingdom_foot-and-m... When the "battle of Covid disinformation" raged in the media, I often noticed that the factcheckers had a tendency to say that no human epidemic was ever provably linked to a lab leak. While true, it was a bit misleading, precisely because of this non-human, but still very economically and societally important disease outbreak which happened in a very developed country and quite recently. I do not really understand why so many people, including some who have no conflict of interest (unlike Peter Daszak!), tend to regard Wuhan lab leak as a dirty, stupid conspiracy theory. Shit happens all the time, no precautions are perfect. If Fukushima, Chernobyl or Challenger happened, a leak of a virus from a lab can happen as well.
- malshe 5y ago
  Thanks for sharing the Wikipedia link. I had no idea about this incident! I totally agree that shit happens all the time. That’s the default, the null hypothesis for any system where humans are involved.
- westcort 5y ago
  Not so. A human flu pandemic occurred in 1977 due to leak of H1N1 from a lab along the Russo-Chinese border: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/science/did-leak-from-a-laboratory-cause-swine-flu-pandemic-1724448.html%3Famp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/scie...

bigphishy 5y ago

I liked Jon Stewart's take on the Wuhan Lab Theory https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sSfejgwbDQ8 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sSfejgwbDQ8 watching that always cracks me up

tim333 5y ago

Ridley, the co-author is quite good in this interview about it all https://youtu.be/xdRksNG4uvU https://youtu.be/xdRksNG4uvU I'm glad people are trying to get some clarity on what went on.